Enquiry on keris motifs

David · 19th April 2018, 05:59 AM

Anthony, this thread shows a few.
http://vikingsword.com/vb/showthread...ght=naga+keris

Anthony G. · 19th April 2018, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by David

Anthony, this thread shows a few.
http://vikingsword.com/vb/showthread...ght=naga+keris

Hi, thank you

David · 19th April 2018, 07:07 PM

I believe you will find more specific styles than are included in that thread, but it's a start. Add more here if you find them.

Anthony G. · 20th April 2018, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by David

I believe you will find more specific styles than are included in that thread, but it's a start. Add more here if you find them.

Recently I found out that there are new contemporary Naga design <Chinese dragon style> in Indonesia which I felt that is not following the keris tradition. Therefore I will not show here. Not sure if it is right thing to happen or is it me being traditional thinking.

Paul de Souza · 20th April 2018, 11:10 AM

I have this Naga in Malay dress. I have always wondered if it is Peninsular or an imported Java blade. Can we tell the difference? What I like about it is how the Naga's body limits itself to the sogokan. Is there a law or adat for this? Which is more common - this body form or the full blade length body?

The sarong has no buntut I so did not show the whole sheath to meet upload limits.

Comments please.

alexish · 20th April 2018, 11:29 AM

Dear Paul,

This is supposed to be a Pattani Naga. What is your opinion?

Paul de Souza · 20th April 2018, 12:35 PM

I am sorry Alex but I have never seen a Patani Naga so I can't say.

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Originally Posted by alexish

Dear Paul,

This is supposed to be a Pattani Naga. What is your opinion?

Gustav · 20th April 2018, 05:44 PM

Paul, I have the impression, that the blade is seriously reshaped, perhaps already a longer time ago.

Sorsoran is very massive compare to the rest, (especially Gonjo seems to be really huge) and Luk previously could have been deeper.

What seems curious to me is, that the grain at the first Luk shows strong bending. Normally the very first Luk is carved, not bent.

20th April 2018, 11:10 AM	#5
Paul de Souza Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 66	I have this Naga in Malay dress. I have always wondered if it is Peninsular or an imported Java blade. Can we tell the difference? What I like about it is how the Naga's body limits itself to the sogokan. Is there a law or adat for this? Which is more common - this body form or the full blade length body? The sarong has no buntut I so did not show the whole sheath to meet upload limits. Comments please. Attached Images

20th April 2018, 11:29 AM	#6
alexish Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 127	Pattani Naga Dear Paul, This is supposed to be a Pattani Naga. What is your opinion? Attached Images

19th April 2018, 05:59 AM	#1
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,211	Anthony, this thread shows a few. http://vikingsword.com/vb/showthread...ght=naga+keris

19th April 2018, 07:07 PM	#3
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,211	I believe you will find more specific styles than are included in that thread, but it's a start. Add more here if you find them.

20th April 2018, 05:44 PM	#8
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,273	Paul, I have the impression, that the blade is seriously reshaped, perhaps already a longer time ago. Sorsoran is very massive compare to the rest, (especially Gonjo seems to be really huge) and Luk previously could have been deeper. What seems curious to me is, that the grain at the first Luk shows strong bending. Normally the very first Luk is carved, not bent.