Short sword for ID

fernando · 14th April 2018, 11:49 AM

Hello MacCathain,
Let me be the first to comment on your sword, as others with fair knowledge will come after to correct my nonsense.
Concerning age, i would go for 18th. century. As for the guard, i would say it has a hunting sword (hirschfanger) attitude, grip profile concave disc and all. However the blade is beyond my bet; dare i guess it once belonged in another sword ?

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corrado26 · 14th April 2018, 02:47 PM

It's a German piece. "<> W <> L <>Z <> H <>" stands for "Wilhelm Landgraf zu Hessen", who was either Wilhelm VIII. (1751-1760) or Wilhelm IX. (1785-1806). His capital was Kassel.
corrado26

fernando · 14th April 2018, 03:36 PM

Good shot corrado

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fernando · 14th April 2018, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by fernando

... However the blade is beyond my bet; dare i guess it once belonged in another sword ?

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On a second thought, straight blades are also seen in hunting swords.

MacCathain · 14th April 2018, 09:04 PM

Thank you Corrado26 and Fernando for your help. It's great to have a point of departure for future research.

thinreadline · 20th April 2018, 08:36 AM

The blade is reminiscent of a Baker Rifle bayonet ... same length too

fernando · 20th April 2018, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by fernando

... However the blade is beyond my bet; dare i guess it once belonged in another sword ?...

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Originally Posted by thinreadline

The blade is reminiscent of a Baker Rifle bayonet ... same length too

Ah !!!

MacCathain · 21st April 2018, 03:13 AM

That's a very interesting observation, Thin.

What is the width of the blade at the ricasso, and across the spine of the blade at the same point?

fernando · 22nd April 2018, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by MacCathain

... What is the width of the blade at the ricasso, and across the spine of the blade at the same point?

Look HERE

... And HERE.

thinreadline · 25th April 2018, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MacCathain

That's a very interesting observation, Thin.

What is the width of the blade at the ricasso, and across the spine of the blade at the same point?

On the one pictured it is 30mm wide at the ricasso and 9mm across the spine at this point .

20th April 2018, 08:36 AM	#6
thinreadline Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Wirral Posts: 1,204	The blade is reminiscent of a Baker Rifle bayonet ... same length too Attached Images

14th April 2018, 11:49 AM	#1
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Hello MacCathain, Let me be the first to comment on your sword, as others with fair knowledge will come after to correct my nonsense. Concerning age, i would go for 18th. century. As for the guard, i would say it has a hunting sword (hirschfanger) attitude, grip profile concave disc and all. However the blade is beyond my bet; dare i guess it once belonged in another sword ? .

14th April 2018, 02:47 PM	#2
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,239	It's a German piece. "<> W <> L <>Z <> H <>" stands for "Wilhelm Landgraf zu Hessen", who was either Wilhelm VIII. (1751-1760) or Wilhelm IX. (1785-1806). His capital was Kassel. corrado26

14th April 2018, 03:36 PM	#3
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Good shot corrado .

14th April 2018, 09:04 PM	#5
MacCathain Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Posts: 68	Thank you Corrado26 and Fernando for your help. It's great to have a point of departure for future research.

21st April 2018, 03:13 AM	#8
MacCathain Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Posts: 68	That's a very interesting observation, Thin. What is the width of the blade at the ricasso, and across the spine of the blade at the same point?