Wood type on Bugis keris

kai · 11th April 2018, 12:29 PM

Disclaimer: Wood is extremely difficult to identify from pics, burlwood even more so...

Having said that, I agree with Jean that kemuning [Murraya paniculata (L.) Jack] is usually a good guess for Bugis sampir and often for hilts, too. (I'm fairly sure that Roland's crosspiece is from kemuning; I'd need to handle the hilt to gain similar confidence though.)

I do hope we'll see more pics of Anthony's keris starting this thread!

Regards,
Kai

Rick · 11th April 2018, 03:05 PM

Anthony, Your post with the pictures has disappeared after being passed.
Please repost the photos.

Anthony G. · 11th April 2018, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick

Anthony, Your post with the pictures has disappeared after being passed.
Please repost the photos.

Silly me as 2nd post is done via iphone and screen too small for me to notice that the attachments size are too large to be uploaded. Sorry folks.

Please find the updated photo.

Sajen · 11th April 2018, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony G.

Silly me as 2nd post is done via iphone and screen too small for me to notice that the attachments size are too large to be uploaded. Sorry folks.

Please find the updated photo.

Hello Anthony,

the handle seems to be recent and from rather cheap wood. To determine the crosspiece of your sheath we need a plan picture, at best by good light or a flash picture, otherwise I doubt that someone will be able to tell you more, sorry.

Regards,
Detlef

kai · 11th April 2018, 06:03 PM

Hello Anthony,

Select a section of wood that is showing some grain (and any chatoyance if present): Take close-ups in full sun or very bright light (flash might do depending on the setup) of all 3 parts of the scabbard as well as the hilt. Make sure the pics are sharp and have good resolution!

There might be some packed grain on the hilt - possibly burlwood or otherwise "stressed" sections of timber...

Regards,
Kai

Sajen · 11th April 2018, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by kai

I'm fairly sure that Roland's crosspiece is from kemuning..

Jup, since I've seen this keris and handled it I can confirm that it's from kemuning.

Anthony G. · 12th April 2018, 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Sajen

Jup, since I've seen this keris and handled it I can confirm that it's from kemuning.

Thank you for your confirmation, yes; bought thru an antique shop in Europe. And also thanks to rest of the members for your advice. Cheers

Anthony G. · 13th April 2018, 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Sajen

Jup, since I've seen this keris and handled it I can confirm that it's from kemuning.

Thank you all members for your advices.

11th April 2018, 12:29 PM	#1
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,255	Disclaimer: Wood is extremely difficult to identify from pics, burlwood even more so... Having said that, I agree with Jean that kemuning [Murraya paniculata (L.) Jack] is usually a good guess for Bugis sampir and often for hilts, too. (I'm fairly sure that Roland's crosspiece is from kemuning; I'd need to handle the hilt to gain similar confidence though.) I do hope we'll see more pics of Anthony's keris starting this thread! Regards, Kai

11th April 2018, 03:05 PM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,347	Anthony, Your post with the pictures has disappeared after being passed. Please repost the photos.

11th April 2018, 06:03 PM	#5
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,255	Hello Anthony, Select a section of wood that is showing some grain (and any chatoyance if present): Take close-ups in full sun or very bright light (flash might do depending on the setup) of all 3 parts of the scabbard as well as the hilt. Make sure the pics are sharp and have good resolution! There might be some packed grain on the hilt - possibly burlwood or otherwise "stressed" sections of timber... Regards, Kai