Ancient Keris Cengkrong for comment

[Arjuna]

It was not tested, I was just told that it is silver or siver plated. But I think you are right its a bit too shiny.

btw. What is Mamas made of? Just know it contains some Nickel.

[Paul B.]

The style of scabbard reminds me much more of a wooden example I recently handled and passed thru. Still believe it is silver plated.

[Jean]

Blade belonging to a royal family?

[David]

I honestly have not handled keris cengkrong nor really seen too many in photos, but this blade seems off to me. It may just be the angle of the photo, but the front of this blade looks like it was once a keris that had the entire gandik sheared off. The edge appears squared off. It this the way keris cengkrong always are or is it possible this blade was once a keris?

[Arjuna]

Cundrik not Cengkrong.

[David]

Originally Posted by Arjuna

Cundrik not Cengkrong.

Perhaps you could explain the difference for us Ajuna. I certainly see numerous blades just like this currently being offered up from Indonesian sources that refer to this type of blade as "Cengkrong".
I have also seen this style of blade referred to as "Cundrik", but Cundrik has also been used by numerous writers on keris (perhaps incorrectly) to describe this a ancient blade form.

[Jean]

Originally Posted by David

Perhaps you could explain the difference for us Ajuna. I certainly see numerous blades just like this currently being offered up from Indonesian sources that refer to this type of blade as "Cengkrong".
I have also seen this style of blade referred to as "Cundrik", but Cundrik has also been used by numerous writers on keris (perhaps incorrectly) to describe this a ancient blade form.

Hello David,
Your blade is a cundrik sajen.
According to the books Dhapur and the EK, the differences between dapur cundrik and cengkrong are very minimal so they can be easily confused. They are usually straight blades but wavy blades are also found, especially with 5 luk.
Regards

[Arjuna]

Originally Posted by David

Perhaps you could explain the difference for us Ajuna. I certainly see numerous blades just like this currently being offered up from Indonesian sources that refer to this type of blade as "Cengkrong".
I have also seen this style of blade referred to as "Cundrik", but Cundrik has also been used by numerous writers on keris (perhaps incorrectly) to describe this a ancient blade form.

I am sorry, cant tell the difference they look almost the same for me. Here are the pictures I found, maybe you know them already ...

Maybe the lurus ones have a reverse Ganja the pandawa none?
I was also told that this is a very old form of keris to be worn by warriors only.

Regards