Ancient Keris Cengkrong for comment

A. G. Maisey · 17th March 2018, 02:32 AM

This style of scabbard, from the applicable period, is normally made in mamas, not silver.

Has the material in this scabbard been tested and confirmed as silver?

Arjuna · 17th March 2018, 07:56 AM

It was not tested, I was just told that it is silver or siver plated. But I think you are right its a bit too shiny.

btw. What is Mamas made of? Just know it contains some Nickel.

Paul B. · 17th March 2018, 09:35 AM

The style of scabbard reminds me much more of a wooden example I recently handled and passed thru. Still believe it is silver plated.

Jean · 17th March 2018, 12:33 PM

Blade belonging to a royal family?

David · 17th March 2018, 03:00 PM

I honestly have not handled keris cengkrong nor really seen too many in photos, but this blade seems off to me. It may just be the angle of the photo, but the front of this blade looks like it was once a keris that had the entire gandik sheared off. The edge appears squared off. It this the way keris cengkrong always are or is it possible this blade was once a keris?

Arjuna · 19th March 2018, 12:38 PM

Cundrik not Cengkrong.

David · 19th March 2018, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Arjuna

Cundrik not Cengkrong.

Perhaps you could explain the difference for us Ajuna. I certainly see numerous blades just like this currently being offered up from Indonesian sources that refer to this type of blade as "Cengkrong".
I have also seen this style of blade referred to as "Cundrik", but Cundrik has also been used by numerous writers on keris (perhaps incorrectly) to describe this a ancient blade form.

19th March 2018, 12:38 PM	#6
Arjuna Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Vienna Posts: 17	Cundrik not Cengkrong. Attached Images

17th March 2018, 02:32 AM	#1
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,085	This style of scabbard, from the applicable period, is normally made in mamas, not silver. Has the material in this scabbard been tested and confirmed as silver?

17th March 2018, 07:56 AM	#2
Arjuna Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Vienna Posts: 17	It was not tested, I was just told that it is silver or siver plated. But I think you are right its a bit too shiny. btw. What is Mamas made of? Just know it contains some Nickel.

17th March 2018, 09:35 AM	#3
Paul B. Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 205	The style of scabbard reminds me much more of a wooden example I recently handled and passed thru. Still believe it is silver plated.

17th March 2018, 12:33 PM	#4
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	Blade belonging to a royal family?

17th March 2018, 03:00 PM	#5
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,250	I honestly have not handled keris cengkrong nor really seen too many in photos, but this blade seems off to me. It may just be the angle of the photo, but the front of this blade looks like it was once a keris that had the entire gandik sheared off. The edge appears squared off. It this the way keris cengkrong always are or is it possible this blade was once a keris?