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16th February 2018, 06:20 PM
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Such a pity, Evgeny. It is so clear and no one recognizes it.
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1st March 2018, 08:51 PM
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All I can say is that the shield shape looks like a Victorian wedge. And the arrow with the line looks like a simplified anchor.
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2nd March 2018, 10:41 AM
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with the short tapered tang and the remains of a rivet, is this probably about the blade of a plug bayonet, 17thC.
one could try to find the mark in this category. best, jasper |
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2nd March 2018, 04:42 PM
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That is surpising news, Jasper ... at least to me
 . According to authority R.D.C. Evans and also to a few plug bayonets i have and had myself, always we have a pin-tang system, which runs full length of the hilt. Very, very rarely we have a push tang, where a short tapered tang passes through an aperture in the crossguard, the grip added by hammering it onto the remaining tang length, secured by friction or by gluing, a popular table-cuttlery method, visibly lacking in strenght. In any case, no rivets taking place ... at least that i have heard of  .. Last edited by fernando; 2nd March 2018 at 08:08 PM. |
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5th March 2018, 02:21 PM
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best, Jasper |
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5th March 2018, 04:00 PM
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I dare say Jasper, that this beautiful dagger is not a plug bayonet. Its handle lacks the obligatory shape, namely the grip swell.
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6th March 2018, 09:14 AM
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for me it is more a bayonet, besides only taper is needed to stay in the barrel. see eg English bayonet from the end of the 17th century.
best, jasper |
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