First posting/ Opinion asked, Possibly Execution tool?

Newbie Grandpa · 16th February 2018, 06:03 PM

Here few from yesterday.

Just learn, how to compress images

Newbie Grandpa · 17th February 2018, 12:18 PM

Some close ups from different angle, of holding end

Newbie Grandpa · 17th February 2018, 12:22 PM

Hope that these give You some additional clues concerning age of the item

All suggestion, to what I should point to My camera, greatly appreciated

fernando · 17th February 2018, 06:31 PM

So Gentlemen, what do you think ?
... A well made replica ? Consider the steel texture.

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mariusgmioc · 17th February 2018, 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fernando

So Gentlemen, what do you think ?
... A well made replica ? Consider the steel texture.
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Not to my eyes.

Most likely a 19 century piece... if not earlier. My guess...

Newbie Grandpa · 18th February 2018, 06:57 AM

Top of the Pommel? ( is that is the correct word )

Lee · 18th February 2018, 01:06 PM

I suspect this may indeed be an antique that has been aggressively cleaned and so I would not pass it along anywhere for just a 'nominal' amount. Eighteenth / nineteenth century seem reasonable as noted by others above. The steel is a little too defect free to try and argue for much earlier, but the Turk's head of the grip appears very well done and with wear and patina in the seams.

In my very early collecting days I had a rather renowned gun dealer denounce an espada ancha I had acquired as a modern made-up piece and my own general library book level research seemed to confirm this. Fortunately I kept it as years later - in the same dealer's shop! - I found a book that made clear that it was the real deal and something to keep.

broadaxe · 26th February 2018, 01:02 PM

A general statement: lots of these have, surprisingly, popped out in the market along the last 3-2 years. I had a chance to examine two different swords firsthand and I don't have a definitive decision. They appear well made, good weight & balance, nice patina. But the large relative amount of them makes me wonder.

Those of you who sign with Facebook or Google+ may want to read my earlier article on such sword, here (I have some other papers there):
https://www.academia.edu/26655980/A_...Justice_indeed

16th February 2018, 06:03 PM	#1
Newbie Grandpa Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 6	Will do with in next week. What details I should focus? Here few from yesterday. Just learn, how to compress images Attached Images

17th February 2018, 12:18 PM	#2
Newbie Grandpa Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 6	New details 1/3 Some close ups from different angle, of holding end Attached Images

17th February 2018, 12:22 PM	#3
Newbie Grandpa Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 6	New details 2/3 Hope that these give You some additional clues concerning age of the item All suggestion, to what I should point to My camera, greatly appreciated Attached Images

17th February 2018, 06:31 PM	#4
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	So Gentlemen, what do you think ? ... A well made replica ? Consider the steel texture. . Last edited by fernando; 17th February 2018 at 08:17 PM.

18th February 2018, 06:57 AM	#6
Newbie Grandpa Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 6	Oh, forgot this one Top of the Pommel? ( is that is the correct word ) Attached Images

18th February 2018, 01:06 PM	#7
Lee EAAF Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Upstate New York, USA Posts: 970	I suspect this may indeed be an antique that has been aggressively cleaned and so I would not pass it along anywhere for just a 'nominal' amount. Eighteenth / nineteenth century seem reasonable as noted by others above. The steel is a little too defect free to try and argue for much earlier, but the Turk's head of the grip appears very well done and with wear and patina in the seams. In my very early collecting days I had a rather renowned gun dealer denounce an espada ancha I had acquired as a modern made-up piece and my own general library book level research seemed to confirm this. Fortunately I kept it as years later - in the same dealer's shop! - I found a book that made clear that it was the real deal and something to keep.

26th February 2018, 01:02 PM	#8
broadaxe Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 334	A general statement: lots of these have, surprisingly, popped out in the market along the last 3-2 years. I had a chance to examine two different swords firsthand and I don't have a definitive decision. They appear well made, good weight & balance, nice patina. But the large relative amount of them makes me wonder. Those of you who sign with Facebook or Google+ may want to read my earlier article on such sword, here (I have some other papers there): https://www.academia.edu/26655980/A_...Justice_indeed