" Death Shroud" Pamor ??

nechesh · 26th March 2006, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew

What a great day! Many, many thanks to Naga Sasra and his lovely wife for their generous hospitality. It was great seeing Rick and Mick again, and I feel truly privileged to have had the opportunity to see and handle so many wonderful keris and tombak today.

You guys are incredibly generous with your experience and knowlege. Thank you for sharing and entertaining my endless queries of "so...what am I looking at here?"

Careful Andrew!!! Sounds like you might be developing a dangerous appreciation for keris. In that company who could blame you.....but your Dhamafia pallies might just wack ya if you don't watch out!

Rick · 26th March 2006, 04:05 PM

I thought our peerless leader showed great resolution in the face of such temptations ......

On the other hand I was unabashedly bowled over .

Rick · 31st March 2006, 10:00 PM

UPS just dropped off the tombak .
Some dimensions 17 3/4" in scabbard , blade is 9 1/2" long slightly leaf shaped and 1 1/8" wide by almost 3/4" thick at the base tapering to a fairly thick point . The tang is almost 5 3/4" long and sturdy .

Comments and observations ?

Andrew · 1st April 2006, 02:40 AM

I have a comment: your photography skills are really getting quite good!

I saw this thing in person and didn't notice the details I see in your pix.

Nice job.

Rick · 1st April 2006, 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew

I have a comment: your photography skills are really getting quite good!

I saw this thing in person and didn't notice the details I see in your pix.

Nice job.

Thanks Andrew !

I blame it all on my little Fuji F700 .

I'm really interested to know what our resident keris / tombak collectors think about this piece .
It seems kind of special IMO .

That was a nice afternoon with those guys wasn't it .

BluErf · 1st April 2006, 04:35 PM

Oh wait a minute... Maybe this pamor is not buntel mayit. It could be lar gansir or some variations of it. Buntel mayit, as I understand it, is supposed to have the pamor going continuously round and round the axis of the blade, thus resembling the cloth used to wrap the body of the deceased. In this case, the pamor lines are interrupted and confined to the middle of the blade.

But still, it is an awesome and beautiful tombak.

Rick · 1st April 2006, 04:53 PM

Thanks for the input Kai Wee .

As I go through the pamor drawings in Tammen's #2 I see that his example drawing of lar gansir shows it with a center line and not very much diagonal to it .

A variation it could certainly be but the lack of a defining center line puzzles me .

Andrew · 1st April 2006, 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

I thought our peerless leader showed great resolution in the face of such temptations ......

On the other hand I was unabashedly bowled over .

I was slack-jawed myself.

While I am happily married, I can still appreciate beauty in other women.

31st March 2006, 10:00 PM	#3
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,339	Pictures Added UPS just dropped off the tombak . Some dimensions 17 3/4" in scabbard , blade is 9 1/2" long slightly leaf shaped and 1 1/8" wide by almost 3/4" thick at the base tapering to a fairly thick point . The tang is almost 5 3/4" long and sturdy . Comments and observations ? Attached Images

26th March 2006, 04:05 PM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,339	I thought our peerless leader showed great resolution in the face of such temptations ...... On the other hand I was unabashedly bowled over .

1st April 2006, 02:40 AM	#4
Andrew Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USA Posts: 1,725	I have a comment: your photography skills are really getting quite good! I saw this thing in person and didn't notice the details I see in your pix. Nice job.

1st April 2006, 04:35 PM	#6
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Oh wait a minute... Maybe this pamor is not buntel mayit. It could be lar gansir or some variations of it. Buntel mayit, as I understand it, is supposed to have the pamor going continuously round and round the axis of the blade, thus resembling the cloth used to wrap the body of the deceased. In this case, the pamor lines are interrupted and confined to the middle of the blade. But still, it is an awesome and beautiful tombak.

1st April 2006, 04:53 PM	#7
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,339	Thanks for the input Kai Wee . As I go through the pamor drawings in Tammen's #2 I see that his example drawing of lar gansir shows it with a center line and not very much diagonal to it . A variation it could certainly be but the lack of a defining center line puzzles me .