Origin silver pendok

Paul B. · 30th January 2018, 07:46 AM

Sorry Alan, you mixed the sides up.
Floral = front and batik looking pattern = rear side.
The slighlty sloping rounded shape tells me so. It reminds me of a previous discussion about a pendok.
Anyway, anybody else having a clue about the destination? Would like to match it with a kris in a proper way.

A. G. Maisey · 30th January 2018, 10:22 AM

Yes Paul, in the hand it is possible to see the offset of the top of a pendok, in your photos I cannot see it, however, front or back is immaterial, what is material is that it is unusual and very nice.

Bjorn · 31st January 2018, 07:27 PM

It seems like a rather unique piece. Like Alan, the pattern reminds me of batik. To me, it looks like a type of sisik (scale) pattern.

The attached 2 photos show modern-day batik cloth with sisik patterns. One is advertised as sisik bunga (flower sisik) and the other as sisik penangi (rainbow sisik).

As it's not a standard pattern for a pendok, I would say it could have been made anywhere in Java.

Bjorn · 31st January 2018, 07:33 PM

Perhaps the gunung ringgit motif could also have served as inspiration for the one who made the pendok. This motif seems to have originated in the pasisir town of Lasem. Searching for this motif also seems to yield kain batik where the motif covers a significant part of the cloth.

If I would be fitting the pendok, I'd be inclined to fit it to a keris from the pasisir.

A. G. Maisey · 31st January 2018, 08:34 PM

That's good Bjorn.

Thanks for saving me the time of looking.

Paul B. · 1st February 2018, 07:03 AM

A name like UNTUK-UNTUKAN was given to me. Don't know about that nor it's meaning but I do know about PAMOR UNTUK BANYU and it has these waves as well.

A. G. Maisey · 1st February 2018, 07:30 AM

"unthuk-unthukan" is Javanese, it means mounds, but I think that this motif is as Bjorn has suggested, a scale motif. I've got a pendok somewhere with a much more simple sisik motif.

31st January 2018, 07:27 PM	#3
Bjorn Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 188	It seems like a rather unique piece. Like Alan, the pattern reminds me of batik. To me, it looks like a type of sisik (scale) pattern. The attached 2 photos show modern-day batik cloth with sisik patterns. One is advertised as sisik bunga (flower sisik) and the other as sisik penangi (rainbow sisik). As it's not a standard pattern for a pendok, I would say it could have been made anywhere in Java. Attached Images

31st January 2018, 07:33 PM	#4
Bjorn Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 188	Perhaps the gunung ringgit motif could also have served as inspiration for the one who made the pendok. This motif seems to have originated in the pasisir town of Lasem. Searching for this motif also seems to yield kain batik where the motif covers a significant part of the cloth. If I would be fitting the pendok, I'd be inclined to fit it to a keris from the pasisir. Attached Images

1st February 2018, 07:03 AM	#6
Paul B. Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 205	A name like UNTUK-UNTUKAN was given to me. Don't know about that nor it's meaning but I do know about PAMOR UNTUK BANYU and it has these waves as well. Attached Images

30th January 2018, 07:46 AM	#1
Paul B. Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 205	Sorry Alan, you mixed the sides up. Floral = front and batik looking pattern = rear side. The slighlty sloping rounded shape tells me so. It reminds me of a previous discussion about a pendok. Anyway, anybody else having a clue about the destination? Would like to match it with a kris in a proper way.

30th January 2018, 10:22 AM	#2
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,015	Yes Paul, in the hand it is possible to see the offset of the top of a pendok, in your photos I cannot see it, however, front or back is immaterial, what is material is that it is unusual and very nice.

31st January 2018, 08:34 PM	#5
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,015	That's good Bjorn. Thanks for saving me the time of looking.

1st February 2018, 07:30 AM	#7
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,015	"unthuk-unthukan" is Javanese, it means mounds, but I think that this motif is as Bjorn has suggested, a scale motif. I've got a pendok somewhere with a much more simple sisik motif.