Indonesian terms for these two

[kai]

Hello Ian,

Until today I would quite happily have called the top one a Malay kelewang and the bottom one a parang ginah.

I agree with the anak wali / parang ginah notion. Based on the recurved tip of the blade, it might be Pattani - however, there seems to be quite some overlap/variability and I believe we need to be cautious with our working hypotheses.


The klewang is not from the northern Malay regions. The cross-section of the blade is not triangular, isn't it?

I'd suggest that it originates from the Straits region or neighbouring Malay communities. The hilt seems to be based on one of the common sewar hilt types. (It might be a later replacement though...)

Regards,
Kai

[Ian]

Originally Posted by kai

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The klewang is not from the northern Malay regions. The cross-section of the blade is not triangular, isn't it?

I'd suggest that it originates from the Straits region or neighbouring Malay communities. The hilt seems to be based on one of the common sewar hilt types. (It might be a later replacement though...)

Regards,
Kai

Hi Kai,

The klewang is a heavy-bladed piece, with thickness of the spine just in front of the hilt of a little more than 5/8 inch. The blade cross section is a wedge shape with a smooth transition from the heavy spine to the cutting edge and from the hilt to the tip.

Ian

[kai]

Hello Ian,

The klewang is a heavy-bladed piece, with thickness of the spine just in front of the hilt of a little more than 5/8 inch. The blade cross section is a wedge shape with a smooth transition from the heavy spine to the cutting edge and from the hilt to the tip.

That sounds more like it, indeed. Could you please post close-ups of the base near the hilt?

Regards,
Kai

[Ian]

Originally Posted by kai

Hello Ian,


That sounds more like it, indeed. Could you please post close-ups of the base near the hilt?

Regards,
Kai

Hi Kai:

Unfortunately my swords are packed for an international move. Movers come next week and those two are buried deep in one of the boxes.

Ian.