My first moro kris

Rick · 24th March 2006, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

Fish and Chips

Flavio · 24th March 2006, 08:40 PM

You american guys always eat steaks

You have to try a good plate of SPAGHETTI AGLIO, OLIO E PEPERONCINO!!! You will like it!!!!!

Rick · 24th March 2006, 09:04 PM

PEPERONCINO!!!

I'll have mine with shrimps and pesto grazie .

By the way ; what is the consensus on the gangya of this kris ?

ThePepperSkull · 7th June 2011, 09:27 PM

Wanted to up this thread in particular because of the weaving done on the Scabbard. Like Ian, I wonder if this could be a Yakan piece -- at least in terms of the weaving on the scabbard, but that brings me to a question:

I am aware that the Yakans preferred the Pira over other blades, and that there are several examples of Yakan-made Barung (I assume due to the expansion of the Sulu Sultanate and the settling of the Bajau people in Basilan).... But were the Yakan ever known to use Kris? It had just occured to me that I have not seen a Yakan Kris nor do I know if they exist. (potentially aside from this piece, but it could very well just be a re-binding of a kris from elsewhere like Sulu)

If they do exist, would this piece be an example of a Yakan Kris? If not, what features would they have to typify them as originating from Yakan in terms of manufacture? And if they did not exist at all aside from recycling Sulu kris, why did the Kris not catch on in Basilan amonst the Yakans like the Barung did?

Maurice · 7th June 2011, 09:44 PM

I've had a moro kris with similar windings once in a few years ago I believe...
It also had this horsehoof like pommel, with pieces of MOP.

According the little holes in Flavio's pommel, I think it could be likely that it had MOP pieces also in the past...??

Dom · 7th June 2011, 10:44 PM

Flavio congratulations, nice shot

really, beautiful dagger

but beware, already you put a finger,
then hand will pass though soon,
then the arm ... and it's too late ... you are fucked

à +

Dom

Battara · 7th June 2011, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maurice

I've had a moro kris with similar windings once in a few years ago I believe...
It also had this horsehoof like pommel, with pieces of MOP.

According the little holes in Flavio's pommel, I think it could be likely that it had MOP pieces also in the past...??

Yes I would concur - MOP panels in those places in my experience. MOP was used in the start of the 20th century for the most part.

Amuk Murugul · 13th June 2011, 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battara

Yes I would concur - MOP panels in those places in my experience. MOP was used in the start of the 20th century for the most part.

Hullo everybody,

Just to add:
Pearl started to be commercially harvested off the coast of West Australia (Roebuck Bay, Broome) about 1861 using Aboriginal and Islander divers. In the 1870s, divers from Asia were used; Malays, Japanese, Filipino etc.
During this period, MOP was an important commodity, being used for buttons, cutlery etc.

Best,

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Maurice Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,453	I've had a moro kris with similar windings once in a few years ago I believe... It also had this horsehoof like pommel, with pieces of MOP. According the little holes in Flavio's pommel, I think it could be likely that it had MOP pieces also in the past...?? Attached Images

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Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	You american guys always eat steaks You have to try a good plate of SPAGHETTI AGLIO, OLIO E PEPERONCINO!!! You will like it!!!!!

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Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	PEPERONCINO!!! I'll have mine with shrimps and pesto grazie . By the way ; what is the consensus on the gangya of this kris ?

7th June 2011, 09:27 PM	#4
ThePepperSkull Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 338	Wanted to up this thread in particular because of the weaving done on the Scabbard. Like Ian, I wonder if this could be a Yakan piece -- at least in terms of the weaving on the scabbard, but that brings me to a question: I am aware that the Yakans preferred the Pira over other blades, and that there are several examples of Yakan-made Barung (I assume due to the expansion of the Sulu Sultanate and the settling of the Bajau people in Basilan).... But were the Yakan ever known to use Kris? It had just occured to me that I have not seen a Yakan Kris nor do I know if they exist. (potentially aside from this piece, but it could very well just be a re-binding of a kris from elsewhere like Sulu) If they do exist, would this piece be an example of a Yakan Kris? If not, what features would they have to typify them as originating from Yakan in terms of manufacture? And if they did not exist at all aside from recycling Sulu kris, why did the Kris not catch on in Basilan amonst the Yakans like the Barung did?

7th June 2011, 10:44 PM	#6
Dom Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Paris (FR*) Cairo (EG) Posts: 1,142	Flavio congratulations, nice shot really, beautiful dagger but beware, already you put a finger, then hand will pass though soon, then the arm ... and it's too late ... you are fucked à + Dom