Shamshir: Turkish or Syrian?

ariel · 23rd March 2006, 09:28 AM

Just like "avoda" in Hebrew is " worship", perhaps "Abd-allah" is properly translated as " worshiper of God"?
I think we are at the end of our rope; we need a native Arabic speaker.

Andrew · 23rd March 2006, 01:54 PM

Mark Carter already posted on this thread. Hopefully he'll come back and jump in.

eftihis · 23rd March 2006, 02:12 PM

Hi, just to tell that almost all of Cretans that were converted to Islam after the conguest of Crete by the Ottomans in 1670 were named Abdullah. It is a name that was given to new converts. So in the turkish religious court papers we can read Abdullah, son of George and Maria etc...

Rivkin · 23rd March 2006, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ariel

Just like "avoda" in Hebrew is " worship", perhaps "Abd-allah" is properly translated as " worshiper of God"?
I think we are at the end of our rope; we need a native Arabic speaker.

Nagh, prayer is salat/namaz. I think ham already said it - abd literaly is a slave, but it does not really relates to our forum's topic.

ariel · 23rd March 2006, 08:25 PM

Prayer and worship are two different things. Again, in Hebrew they are Tfilah and Avoda, respectively. Abdallah is definitely not "praying to God", but could he be " worshipping God"?
Or, indeed, just as Rivkin said "God's slave"?

23rd March 2006, 09:28 AM	#1
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Just like "avoda" in Hebrew is " worship", perhaps "Abd-allah" is properly translated as " worshiper of God"? I think we are at the end of our rope; we need a native Arabic speaker.

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Andrew Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USA Posts: 1,725	Mark Carter already posted on this thread. Hopefully he'll come back and jump in.

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eftihis Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chania Crete Greece Posts: 511	Hi, just to tell that almost all of Cretans that were converted to Islam after the conguest of Crete by the Ottomans in 1670 were named Abdullah. It is a name that was given to new converts. So in the turkish religious court papers we can read Abdullah, son of George and Maria etc...

23rd March 2006, 08:25 PM	#5
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Prayer and worship are two different things. Again, in Hebrew they are Tfilah and Avoda, respectively. Abdallah is definitely not "praying to God", but could he be " worshipping God"? Or, indeed, just as Rivkin said "God's slave"?