Visayan Sword on Cato's Moro Swords?

Federico · 17th January 2005, 08:07 PM

Remember the other sword being discussed. Though I'd be more inclined to classify as a shandigan barong with sharpened false edge and Naga hilt? Bangkung I've always associated with more kampilan-esque blades or the "Moro" version of the binagong (now this is if Im remembering the Binagong definition right compared to tenegre and of course if Im even spelling it right) or the lumad tribe kampilan-esque weaponry.

I agree with Ian 100% on the first ebay sword. Modern era (well relatively) tenegre (ok Im cautious with this term cause I mess it up all the time, but just because I dont feel like saying Visayan Bolo I'll use it). The sword on pg 23 in Bob's book is a Naga hilted barong. The picture in the book is a little wierd due to printing.

Spunjer · 17th January 2005, 10:03 PM

hey ian, welcome back! kamusta ang pilipinas (how's philippines)?
as far as that item that was sold a couple months ago, i believe it was agreed to be a variation of barong/bangkung type. after i saw the picture while leafing thru cato's book this past weekend, that's when i remember that ebay item that was discussed a couple months ago.

as for the binangon (don't worry fred, i didn't know there was a difference between that and a tenegre til zel pointed it out to me; heck, i'm ilonggo to boot

), i just can't shake the feeling on how the shape of the blade is strikingly similar to the one on cato's book and the ebay item, save for the shandigan blade.

Federico · 17th January 2005, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Spunjer

i just can't shake the feeling on how the shape of the blade is strikingly similar to the one on cato's book and the ebay item, save for the shandigan blade.

Its because it has a rounded clip point. Its there, but because it is somewhat rounded that is why it is throwing you off.

As for Bob's book, I can assure you 100% it is a standard barong blade. Play around with picture angles and barongs, and you can sometimes get some interesting results.

Ian · 18th January 2005, 12:10 PM

Mabuti naman salamat po si Spunger.

Philippines was geat, as usual, but only a couple of days. Did see our friend Dan Wilke in Manila, and he made some excellent purchases which I hope he will share with us shortly.

Did not see any shandigan weapons, though there were a couple of nice old kampilan -- Dan snagged a good one.

17th January 2005, 08:07 PM	#1
Federico Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Minneapolis, MN, USA Posts: 312	Remember the other sword being discussed. Though I'd be more inclined to classify as a shandigan barong with sharpened false edge and Naga hilt? Bangkung I've always associated with more kampilan-esque blades or the "Moro" version of the binagong (now this is if Im remembering the Binagong definition right compared to tenegre and of course if Im even spelling it right) or the lumad tribe kampilan-esque weaponry. I agree with Ian 100% on the first ebay sword. Modern era (well relatively) tenegre (ok Im cautious with this term cause I mess it up all the time, but just because I dont feel like saying Visayan Bolo I'll use it). The sword on pg 23 in Bob's book is a Naga hilted barong. The picture in the book is a little wierd due to printing.

17th January 2005, 10:03 PM	#2
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	hey ian, welcome back! kamusta ang pilipinas (how's philippines)? as far as that item that was sold a couple months ago, i believe it was agreed to be a variation of barong/bangkung type. after i saw the picture while leafing thru cato's book this past weekend, that's when i remember that ebay item that was discussed a couple months ago. as for the binangon (don't worry fred, i didn't know there was a difference between that and a tenegre til zel pointed it out to me; heck, i'm ilonggo to boot ), i just can't shake the feeling on how the shape of the blade is strikingly similar to the one on cato's book and the ebay item, save for the shandigan blade.

18th January 2005, 12:10 PM	#4
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,363	Mabuti naman salamat po si Spunger. Philippines was geat, as usual, but only a couple of days. Did see our friend Dan Wilke in Manila, and he made some excellent purchases which I hope he will share with us shortly. Did not see any shandigan weapons, though there were a couple of nice old kampilan -- Dan snagged a good one.