What a history

ALEX · 21st September 2017, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by mariusgmioc

Hi Alex,
It is an Indian dagger all right. I don't discern any Japanese style/influence...

Yes, it is certainly Indian dagger, not Japanese in neither style nor influence. But was it (entirely) made in India? Is it original... or Mughal style dagger made elsewhere like in Japan, China, etc.? Also, is it 19thC work really?
Your dagger looks more Indian. The eyes do look proper kundan, although the rest is not kundan as I am sure you know.

estcrh · 21st September 2017, 08:13 PM

Looks like there was originally gold on top of the copper.

ALEX · 21st September 2017, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by estcrh

Looks like there was originally gold on top of the copper.

Nice close-up. Looks like it was gilded copper kundan. The exposed carving on the ridge looks clean, even and uniform, almost as machine made., does not look 19thC work.

mariusgmioc · 22nd September 2017, 07:35 AM

I find it strange that the stones don't appear to be gems but coloured glass. But the photos can be deceiving.

estcrh · 22nd September 2017, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by mariusgmioc

I find it strange that the stones don't appear to be gems but coloured glass. But the photos can be deceiving.

You are probably right, maybe gems and gold were removed, with the gems being replaced. But the blade does not appear to be of the quality expected as well in my opinion.

mariusgmioc · 22nd September 2017, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by estcrh

You are probably right, maybe gems and gold were removed, with the gems being replaced. But the blade does not appear to be of the quality expected as well in my opinion.

I was thinking pretty much the same albeit the quality of the photos make the assesment of the blade very difficult.

All in all, this dagger and its story raise more question marks than the pyramids...

ariel · 22nd September 2017, 10:10 PM

Long, long ago somebody on this Forum said: " Buy the sword, not the story".

I still remember it.

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ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Long, long ago somebody on this Forum said: " Buy the sword, not the story". I still remember it.