spanish colonial lances

NMSUrfer · 20th September 2017, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim McDougall

That is outstanding, and yup, its an elephant OK!!!
Would you please send me a PM, yours is not receiving.

All the best,

Jim

I am very late to this conversation, but I have a theory about the elephant shield. It seems to have images of sharks on it which makes me think of drawings done at Ft Marion. I seem to remember some of the men held there saw a traveling circus. I would imagine it made quite an impression, maybe enough to seek the elephant as a protector spirit on a shield.

midelburgo · 21st September 2017, 12:30 AM

About 6 or 7 years ago somebody in New Mexico hit a hoard of colonial weaponry. For weeks he kept listing espadas anchas at ebay, and from time to time also a lance. I saw the files recently looking for something else, if these fossil thread is of interes I could hang them.

There is also some new literature since this thread was started about jinetes de cuera.

Jim McDougall · 21st September 2017, 04:44 AM

WOW! Thanks guys! It is great to see these old threads revived, and absolutely please post anything you can.
N.M surfer one of my favorite states!! we are in Washington but about to turn the 'bookmobile' that direction by October.

Always looking for espada anchas and all Spanish colonial things as there are intriguing variations that need very much to be included in cataloguing.

midelburgo · 21st September 2017, 12:20 PM

Lets try. From the hoard.

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Jim McDougall · 21st September 2017, 04:05 PM

Fantastic!!
Thank you for these. Any details or ideas on them? Where they are from etc.
The lance head may be from a goad or buffalo hunt example as it is socketed rather than with langets.

Curious on the LA stamp on what appears a 'gavilan' type espada.

midelburgo · 21st September 2017, 04:47 PM

The pieces with the red background were downloaded from ebay in 2005, from a guy saying something like that he found them together in a barn not far from Albuquerque. I am unable to open the original ebay page.

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midelburgo · 21st September 2017, 04:48 PM

Another
I remembered more lances...

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21st September 2017, 12:20 PM	#4
midelburgo Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 264	Lets try. From the hoard. . Attached Images Last edited by fernando; 21st September 2017 at 05:11 PM.

21st September 2017, 04:47 PM	#6
midelburgo Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 264	The pieces with the red background were downloaded from ebay in 2005, from a guy saying something like that he found them together in a barn not far from Albuquerque. I am unable to open the original ebay page. . Attached Images Last edited by fernando; 21st September 2017 at 05:15 PM.

21st September 2017, 04:48 PM	#7
midelburgo Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 264	Another I remembered more lances... . Attached Images Last edited by fernando; 21st September 2017 at 05:25 PM.

21st September 2017, 12:30 AM	#2
midelburgo Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 264	About 6 or 7 years ago somebody in New Mexico hit a hoard of colonial weaponry. For weeks he kept listing espadas anchas at ebay, and from time to time also a lance. I saw the files recently looking for something else, if these fossil thread is of interes I could hang them. There is also some new literature since this thread was started about jinetes de cuera.

21st September 2017, 04:44 AM	#3
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,194	WOW! Thanks guys! It is great to see these old threads revived, and absolutely please post anything you can. N.M surfer one of my favorite states!! we are in Washington but about to turn the 'bookmobile' that direction by October. Always looking for espada anchas and all Spanish colonial things as there are intriguing variations that need very much to be included in cataloguing.

21st September 2017, 04:05 PM	#5
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,194	Fantastic!! Thank you for these. Any details or ideas on them? Where they are from etc. The lance head may be from a goad or buffalo hunt example as it is socketed rather than with langets. Curious on the LA stamp on what appears a 'gavilan' type espada.