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Old 3rd September 2017, 09:25 AM   #1
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Hello Leif,
Just few comments:
. The 2 blades are original and old, the longer one would deserve a better cleaning, by soaking it for 24 h in undiluted vinegar (in a closed container for avoiding evaporation of the acetic acid) and regular brushings you will fully get rid of the rust but it may look too shiny, then a light warangan treatment would uniformally tarnish it if required. From the pics I would leave the shorter blade in its original condition.
. I think that the longer blade is from Sumatra Riau and the shorter one maybe from Malaysia but I am not sure.
. The 2 hilts look recently made.
. Regarding the gap at the scabbard neck joint, I would try to make a wooden or horn sleeve, or fill with putty and cover by a silver sleeve..
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Old 3rd September 2017, 01:13 PM   #2
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Hi Leif,

In my opinion the sheath and hilt of both keris are Peninsular Malaysia due to the shape (thicker sampir and a bit rounded shaft - North-East coast Malaysia, Terengganu, Kelantan and Southern Thailand style) and type of wood being used - kenaung if I'm not mistaken. The wood identified by the patterns in the wood. The sampir and hilt of shorter keris is probably from kemuning. It also can have patterns. How to describe the difference in detail, I have no idea. I think both actually are probably of the same species. To avoid lengthy discussions on the type of wood, it is safe just say both keris sampir and hilt are from kemuning.

The shorter keris hilt type I think is called Tapak Kuda (Horse's hoof). I forgot the name of the other hilt, I want to say Tangkai Labu (Pumpkin stem), but I think nobody will blame you if you say it is a variant of Tapak Kuda hilt.

The longer keris use a pendongkok of the gelugor type mainly used in Terengganu region. Material is probably brass with higher nickel content. Below is a photo of a gelugor fruit. There's a possibility that both keris blades are from Malaysia, but I am not sure.
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