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Old 25th August 2017, 01:29 PM   #1
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I think it is highly probable that the alternate keris sajen as in #'s 15, 17, 18, 19, 20, were forged from recycled old keris blades. Further, I believe that recycled old keris blades were sometimes used in the manufacture of certain other talismanic keris, those with the handle forge welded to the base of the blade. Whether this was done simply as a use of recycled material, whether to preserve a valued blade, whether to save costs, or for all these reasons, we have no way of knowing.

Apart from those items of wesi aji that are positively identifiable as keris sajen, a number of other items of talismanic wesi aji are also shown here. Some are keris-like, with the handle in a different plane to the blade, one is of cunderik form.

I regret that I am unable to provide more information on these talismanic objects, however, I am open to questions or discussion in respect of them."

This link will take you to photos of keris sajen in my site:-

http://www.kerisattosanaji.com/kerissajen.html
Thanks Alan. Having been to your linked page above many times i was well aware that you didn't have much solid information to add to a discussion keris sajen in general, though i thought you might have some comments on some of Kulino's individual pieces. While what you have copied from your website above solves no riddles and answers few questions it does present a platform from which some further discussion might take place. You have said what can be said with assurity, but perhaps it can inspire some thought and further researching.Though the link to your page had already been presented i don't assume that everybody noticed or followed the link to it and i like having your words from that page here for our own archival purposes. I would not have assumed to copy and paste them myself so thank you for added them here.
I should note, just to avoid any possible confusion, that the keris sajen you are specially referring to in the quoted part above in this post refer directly to the keris sajen on your page, not the ones Kulino has uploaded.
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Old 27th August 2017, 11:20 AM   #2
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Dear all,
Thank you for your feedback. I'll continue with the remainder of the collection.
Again, many things have been said about this type of keris but virtually none of these statements can be supporten by facts. I agree wit Alan's observation about the recylced blades. These and maybe more were added to the collection to show variety. It doesn't say anything about the extent these specific keris were revered and maybe also nothing about their age. In this box there is at least one which I consider to be recent. ( The one with the detailed hermit/putut is well made but recent.) When the collection boxes are done I'll post a couple of keris in their own 'shrine' boxes as they were collected.
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Old 27th August 2017, 11:23 AM   #3
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Old 27th August 2017, 11:26 AM   #4
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Next. Most of these are fairly log.
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Old 27th August 2017, 12:09 PM   #5
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Dear all,
The next couple of posts will be of sajen which came in special boxes, sometimes linened with velvet or other fabrics, with a headrest and accompanied by special stone, dried flowers, padi, etc. There is even one with a thank you letter supposedly signed by PB XII. Pity I can't show the scented oils...
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Old 27th August 2017, 01:48 PM   #6
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Dear all,
This concludes the posting of this collection. My dear friend who collected these keris over the time of his life was a very private person. I'm sure he would have hated it that I would mention his name. Nevertheless I don't see any other way to give him the credits he so deserves publicly. Cees Hendriks, thank you for your friendship, for entrusting me with this legacy and for so many things more.

I hope you will honour his memory by using this database in a good way. For generating knowledge, understanding and preserving this wonderful cultural heritage within its context.
If you have questions or special requests concerning this collection, I will try to accommodate.

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Old 27th August 2017, 01:53 PM   #7
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To conclude this posting of pictures of sajen, I'll add the one which was which I posted earlier.
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