Determine Front Side of The Pendok

Sajen · 19th August 2017, 01:49 AM

Have found it in a box where I keep a lot of different pendoks as spare parts. Not direct the same style but this pillars are present here as well. I ever have thought that my pendok is a Banyumas pendok but I could be wrong.

Regards,
Detlef

A. G. Maisey · 19th August 2017, 02:39 AM

The motif on Bejo's pendok and the motif on Detlef's pendok are not the same, nor similar, but are philosophically related.

Detlef's pendok has a motif that symbolises emerging life. At the top there is a butterfly, or moth, if we track this butterfly down to the beginning of the motif at the tip of the pendok, we will see that the butterfly has experienced a journey from chrysalis to grown beast with spread wings. This is a statement of the way in which life grows, something of particular importance to an agrarian based society.

Bejo's motif is different. This one I do not know for certain, but a very highly regarded silver & gold smith who specialised in keris fittings and who lived in Solo once told me that in his opinion this angular upright was a stylization of the Kalpataru, the Tree of Life.

I am inclined to accept this as an accurate opinion, because if we look at the literature on Indonesian art motifs we frequently see the Kalpataru represented in a very sparse, angular fashion.

Detlef, I consider your pendok to be Banyumas. If we are both wrong, then a very great number of Javanese keris literate people will also be wrong.

Bejo's pendok I'm a bit hesitant about, my inclination is to think of it as quite recent, say within the last 50 years, and made in the style of Banyumas, but in Jogja.

Bejo, a question:- is your pendok silver, and if so, what is its weight?

Bejo · 19th August 2017, 09:19 AM

Thank you for all the opinions. That really help me

Quote:

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

Bejo, a question:- is your pendok silver, and if so, what is its weight?

Yes, the pendok is made from silver. Its weight 41 gram, 33.5 cm long.

Thank you,

Best regards,

Joe

Sajen · 19th August 2017, 09:52 AM

Hello Alan,

and what you think is the front side from Bejos pendok?

Regards,
Detlef

Sajen · 19th August 2017, 10:00 AM

I received from a friend a picture from another pendok in the same style.

Sajen · 19th August 2017, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

Detlef, I consider your pendok to be Banyumas. If we are both wrong, then a very great number of Javanese keris literate people will also be wrong.

19th August 2017, 01:49 AM	#1
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,165	Have found it in a box where I keep a lot of different pendoks as spare parts. Not direct the same style but this pillars are present here as well. I ever have thought that my pendok is a Banyumas pendok but I could be wrong. Regards, Detlef Attached Images

19th August 2017, 10:00 AM	#5
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,165	I received from a friend a picture from another pendok in the same style. Attached Images

19th August 2017, 02:39 AM	#2
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,992	The motif on Bejo's pendok and the motif on Detlef's pendok are not the same, nor similar, but are philosophically related. Detlef's pendok has a motif that symbolises emerging life. At the top there is a butterfly, or moth, if we track this butterfly down to the beginning of the motif at the tip of the pendok, we will see that the butterfly has experienced a journey from chrysalis to grown beast with spread wings. This is a statement of the way in which life grows, something of particular importance to an agrarian based society. Bejo's motif is different. This one I do not know for certain, but a very highly regarded silver & gold smith who specialised in keris fittings and who lived in Solo once told me that in his opinion this angular upright was a stylization of the Kalpataru, the Tree of Life. I am inclined to accept this as an accurate opinion, because if we look at the literature on Indonesian art motifs we frequently see the Kalpataru represented in a very sparse, angular fashion. Detlef, I consider your pendok to be Banyumas. If we are both wrong, then a very great number of Javanese keris literate people will also be wrong. Bejo's pendok I'm a bit hesitant about, my inclination is to think of it as quite recent, say within the last 50 years, and made in the style of Banyumas, but in Jogja. Bejo, a question:- is your pendok silver, and if so, what is its weight?

19th August 2017, 09:52 AM	#4
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,165	Hello Alan, and what you think is the front side from Bejos pendok? Regards, Detlef