Meaning of corok?

David · 29th July 2017, 03:42 PM

You stated the keris is 24.5" "overall". How long is just the blade then?

S.Workman · 29th July 2017, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by David

You stated the keris is 24.5" "overall". How long is just the blade then?

It isn't near me right now, but I'm going to say 18"

Jean · 29th July 2017, 07:58 PM

I used to be an engineer...
1. In metric units the total kris length is 24.5" or 62 cm.
2. Assuming that the blade is flush to the scabbard, the total kris length is the sum of the lengths of the hilt plus exposed pesi, and the gandar. I measured these at 3.5 cm and 12.4 cm respectively on my screen, so 15.9 cm total.
3. I measured the blade length at 10.7 cm on my screen.

Thus the blade length should be: (10.7 : 15.9) x 62 = 41.7 cm or 16.5 inches

Of course this result is not very accurate...
Regards

David · 30th July 2017, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by S.Workman

It isn't near me right now, but I'm going to say 18"

Thanks. I would actually love a truly accurate accounting if you manage to dig up a ruler. Not doubting either your own approximating skills or Jean's engineering skills, but an exact number should not be too difficult to obtain i would think.

Either way, 16.5" to 18" are well within a normal length for a Bali blade.

S.Workman · 30th July 2017, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by David

Thanks. I would actually love a truly accurate accounting if you manage to dig up a ruler. Not doubting either your own approximating skills or Jean's engineering skills, but an exact number should not be too difficult to obtain i would think.

Either way, 16.5" to 18" are well within a normal length for a Bali blade.

From the tip to but excluding the pesi is exactly 18" measured straight down the center. So, not a keris corok? Or, not to most people?

A. G. Maisey · 30th July 2017, 03:26 PM

Jean, I do not doubt that your contact living in Solo may have used the word "corok". As I said, I am aware that some people do use it, but the word "corok" has never had popular usage amongst the circle of people whom I count as teachers and close acquaintances.

I do not know why this is so, but I suspect the word and idea of "corok" is something that is perhaps more popular amongst people with Jakarta, or other city-type background than with people who have kraton associations and associations with the old school m'ranggis.

29th July 2017, 03:42 PM	#1
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,211	You stated the keris is 24.5" "overall". How long is just the blade then?

29th July 2017, 07:58 PM	#3
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	I used to be an engineer... 1. In metric units the total kris length is 24.5" or 62 cm. 2. Assuming that the blade is flush to the scabbard, the total kris length is the sum of the lengths of the hilt plus exposed pesi, and the gandar. I measured these at 3.5 cm and 12.4 cm respectively on my screen, so 15.9 cm total. 3. I measured the blade length at 10.7 cm on my screen. Thus the blade length should be: (10.7 : 15.9) x 62 = 41.7 cm or 16.5 inches Of course this result is not very accurate... Regards

30th July 2017, 03:26 PM	#6
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,992	Jean, I do not doubt that your contact living in Solo may have used the word "corok". As I said, I am aware that some people do use it, but the word "corok" has never had popular usage amongst the circle of people whom I count as teachers and close acquaintances. I do not know why this is so, but I suspect the word and idea of "corok" is something that is perhaps more popular amongst people with Jakarta, or other city-type background than with people who have kraton associations and associations with the old school m'ranggis.