Meaning of corok?

[S.Workman]

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

In fact Jean, I have very seldom heard it used in Jawa either, but I know some people do use it.

Perhaps the gentleman who advised Mr. Workman was Javanese.

Good morning guys,
I believe the fellow who provided the information is from Java. I didn't want to pry, I don't know him that well.
So it's a descriptive but somewhat ironic term? It brings to mind outsized o-Ken being called "oars" or "laundry poles" or things of that nature.
Overall length is 24.5". Would that normally qualify?

[A. G. Maisey]

In Solo a common ironic term for a big, heavy keris is "linggis" --- a spud bar (crow bar, post hole bar).

[S.Workman]

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

In Solo a common ironic term for a big, heavy keris is "linggis" --- a spud bar (crow bar, post hole bar).

Thats great, I love that word play. I still wonder if a my keris qualifies as a corok, although my understanding of the keris is limited to a few books and the perusal of a few museum collections, mostly eclectic and happenstance. And of course what I have been lucky enough to learn here.

[kronckew]

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

In Solo a common ironic term for a big, heavy keris is "linggis" --- a spud bar (crow bar, post hole bar).

Originally Posted by S.Workman

Thats great, I love that word play. I still wonder if a my keris qualifies as a corok, although my understanding of the keris is limited to a few books and the perusal of a few museum collections, mostly eclectic and happenstance. And of course what I have been lucky enough to learn here.

gets worse.

lingus (latin) is a tongue/licking, as in i'm a cunning linguist.

lingam is a SEA (hindu) religious depiction of a male generative organ. the pesi can also be described as the lingham that penetrates the (female) ganja.

lingus is slang for a long skinny male organ (urban dictionary)...the opposite
of a chode, a short fat one.

[Bjorn]

I was under the impression that keris corok were mainly used in Sunda, and generally worn on the left hip owing to their larger size.

[Jean]

Originally Posted by S.Workman

Good morning guys,
I believe the fellow who provided the information is from Java. I didn't want to pry, I don't know him that well.
So it's a descriptive but somewhat ironic term? It brings to mind outsized o-Ken being called "oars" or "laundry poles" or things of that nature.
Overall length is 24.5". Would that normally qualify?

Your blade should be 40-42 cm long excluding the pesi, which is a pretty standard size for a Balinese blade.
Regards

[S.Workman]

Originally Posted by Jean

Your blade should be 40-42 cm long excluding the pesi, which is a pretty standard size for a Balinese blade.
Regards

Thats intriguing, I wonder what made my informant think of it as oversized? He saw a photo of it and knows the dimensions, perhaps something in the shape inspired him.

[David]

You stated the keris is 24.5" "overall". How long is just the blade then?

[S.Workman]

Originally Posted by David

You stated the keris is 24.5" "overall". How long is just the blade then?

It isn't near me right now, but I'm going to say 18"

[Jean]

I used to be an engineer...
1. In metric units the total kris length is 24.5" or 62 cm.
2. Assuming that the blade is flush to the scabbard, the total kris length is the sum of the lengths of the hilt plus exposed pesi, and the gandar. I measured these at 3.5 cm and 12.4 cm respectively on my screen, so 15.9 cm total.
3. I measured the blade length at 10.7 cm on my screen.

Thus the blade length should be: (10.7 : 15.9) x 62 = 41.7 cm or 16.5 inches


Of course this result is not very accurate...
Regards

[David]

Originally Posted by S.Workman

It isn't near me right now, but I'm going to say 18"

Thanks. I would actually love a truly accurate accounting if you manage to dig up a ruler. Not doubting either your own approximating skills or Jean's engineering skills, but an exact number should not be too difficult to obtain i would think.
Either way, 16.5" to 18" are well within a normal length for a Bali blade.

[S.Workman]

Originally Posted by David

Thanks. I would actually love a truly accurate accounting if you manage to dig up a ruler. Not doubting either your own approximating skills or Jean's engineering skills, but an exact number should not be too difficult to obtain i would think.
Either way, 16.5" to 18" are well within a normal length for a Bali blade.

From the tip to but excluding the pesi is exactly 18" measured straight down the center. So, not a keris corok? Or, not to most people?