Meaning of corok?

[kai]

A pic of your keris might help.

Regards,
Kai

[A. G. Maisey]

In Javanese the word "corok" means a stick that you use to poke something with.

Some people refer to a longer than normal keris as a "keris corok".

[Jean]

A specimen of Javanese blade corok (42.5 cm long excluding the pesi). However I never heard this term applied to Balinese blades.
Regards

[A. G. Maisey]

In fact Jean, I have very seldom heard it used in Jawa either, but I know some people do use it.

Perhaps the gentleman who advised Mr. Workman was Javanese.

[S.Workman]

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

In fact Jean, I have very seldom heard it used in Jawa either, but I know some people do use it.

Perhaps the gentleman who advised Mr. Workman was Javanese.

Good morning guys,
I believe the fellow who provided the information is from Java. I didn't want to pry, I don't know him that well.
So it's a descriptive but somewhat ironic term? It brings to mind outsized o-Ken being called "oars" or "laundry poles" or things of that nature.
Overall length is 24.5". Would that normally qualify?

[A. G. Maisey]

In Solo a common ironic term for a big, heavy keris is "linggis" --- a spud bar (crow bar, post hole bar).

[S.Workman]

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

In Solo a common ironic term for a big, heavy keris is "linggis" --- a spud bar (crow bar, post hole bar).

Thats great, I love that word play. I still wonder if a my keris qualifies as a corok, although my understanding of the keris is limited to a few books and the perusal of a few museum collections, mostly eclectic and happenstance. And of course what I have been lucky enough to learn here.

[Bjorn]

I was under the impression that keris corok were mainly used in Sunda, and generally worn on the left hip owing to their larger size.

[Jean]

Originally Posted by S.Workman

Good morning guys,
I believe the fellow who provided the information is from Java. I didn't want to pry, I don't know him that well.
So it's a descriptive but somewhat ironic term? It brings to mind outsized o-Ken being called "oars" or "laundry poles" or things of that nature.
Overall length is 24.5". Would that normally qualify?

Your blade should be 40-42 cm long excluding the pesi, which is a pretty standard size for a Balinese blade.
Regards

[S.Workman]

Originally Posted by Jean

Your blade should be 40-42 cm long excluding the pesi, which is a pretty standard size for a Balinese blade.
Regards

Thats intriguing, I wonder what made my informant think of it as oversized? He saw a photo of it and knows the dimensions, perhaps something in the shape inspired him.

[Jean]

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

In fact Jean, I have very seldom heard it used in Jawa either, but I know some people do use it.

Perhaps the gentleman who advised Mr. Workman was Javanese.

I was told this term by my Solonese friend who is active in the kris business there.
Regards

[S.Workman]

Does anyone have a keris that is in fact a corok that they would be willing to post? I would like to see one long enough to be worn like a sword, if its not too inconvenient.
Or, is the one Jean posted above to be worn in that fashion?

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by S.Workman

Does anyone have a keris that is in fact a corok that they would be willing to post? I would like to see one long enough to be worn like a sword, if its not too inconvenient.
Or, is the one Jean posted above to be worn in that fashion?

I've heard the term keris corok before in regards for a very long keris. Here a keris pedang from Lombok from my collection: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showpo...68&postcount=7 taken from this thread: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...t=keris+pedang

Regards,
Detlef