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Old 15th July 2017, 03:42 PM   #1
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Picture of the business end... Amazingly cutting the woodwork back and sawing several inches off the barrel and thereby losing the bayonet lug...this weapon lost hardly any accuracy and to my knowledge represents one of the lightest and most powerful combat rifles ever made !
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Old 17th July 2017, 02:35 PM   #2
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The best reference on Martini Henry is still I believe http://www.martinihenry.com/ and with a very good Bibliography.

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Old 29th September 2017, 04:21 PM   #3
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This is about as ornate as they come second only to the gold inlaid weapon on this thread earlier.....The Martini Henry.
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Old 9th October 2017, 09:05 AM   #4
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I have a Belgian export Martini Henry, with Omani-type decoration, but in the meantime here are two pics from Nizwa: A man strolling in the street with a Martini, maybe to have repaired or to sell, and then some merchants, with the son tackling the rusted breech of a Lee Enfield No.4 MK1 with a pocket knife.
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Old 10th October 2017, 10:32 PM   #5
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Great pictures and typical of a scene in a gun shop in Oman with several hundred years of technology all clashing together !!!
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Old 10th October 2017, 11:31 PM   #6
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This is probably off topic, but I love the Martini action, and I just couldn't resist throwing this comment into the pool.

There is a small version of the Martini action that is known as the Martini Cadet, in Australia it was used to train school cadets in use of the rifle, which at that time was considered to be essential for the defence of our country, the idea was that every man in Australia should be able to handle a rifle with competence.

In about 1958 the Australian defence forces sold these Cadet Martinis and they became available to the general public through firearms retailers. When they first hit the market they sold for ten shillings each. After a few months the price went up to twenty shillings (one pound) and it bounced around at that level for a long time.

As soon as they hit the market I bought 6 or 8 of these Martinis, I had a Sydney gunsmith named Don Black do conversions on them to various calibres --- .218Bee, .219 Zipper, and in the early 1960's to a rimmed version of the .222 Remington, plus a few others. One of these Remington conversions was done by a precision gunsmith named Bill Marden, it used a sleeved barrel and for a short time held a benchrest record for its weight class. I made the wood for all these conversions, used each one for a short time, then sold it.

Over the years I did perhaps as many as 20 or so Martini conversions. I've still got three, a couple of .218 Bees and a .22 rimfire.

I love Martinis, they are a purely beautiful action.

Apart from the Martini Cadets, I've also owned a couple of Hammerli Free Pistols, again, beautiful machines.
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Old 11th October 2017, 12:37 AM   #7
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Here are 3 I dug up off https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/brit...ets-t9246.html on the web....
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This is about as ornate as they come second only to the gold inlaid weapon on this thread earlier.....The Martini Henry.
Interesting stock shape on this one.......It strongly resembles the Albanian Rasak stock.
Was there a caption with this pic and if so what did it say?
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Old 16th October 2017, 07:09 PM   #9
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Interesting stock shape on this one.......It strongly resembles the Albanian Rasak stock.
Was there a caption with this pic and if so what did it say?
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It is Rasak. Or rather Kariophili. The letters along the barrel are greek.
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It has a Greek inscription in Niello mentionimg the maker (decorator)
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Old 17th October 2017, 01:04 PM   #11
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Yes it looks like a Greek Version of the Martini Henry...Meanwhile here is a weapon from up the Khyber.
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Old 17th October 2017, 01:19 PM   #12
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Any ideas on the provenance on these?
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Bayonets!
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Old 17th October 2017, 04:10 PM   #14
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Interesting stock shape on this one.......It strongly resembles the Albanian Rasak stock.
Was there a caption with this pic and if so what did it say?
Stu

The Martini Henry was adopted by the Ottoman Empire and a number were highly decorated for VIP gifts see https://www.google.com/search?q=otto...0NcRPQQ22K9dM:
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Here is another one
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Old 17th October 2017, 08:48 PM   #16
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Ah nice... Oh I see the loaded indicator arrow is fitted upside down...
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