Assistance for a keris novice

A. G. Maisey · 3rd July 2017, 08:12 AM

A post in the wrong hole.

A. G. Maisey · 3rd July 2017, 08:16 AM

Its just experience Shadye.

+60 years worth.

That plus the fact that I've handled literally thousands of blades and have been taught by probably the best and most knowledgeable teachers of their generation, two of whom were Surakarta Karaton Empus.

There is a good Tuban blade shown in this thread, and Jean has shown a pic of one of the super-size Tuban blades:-

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=22862

shayde78 · 6th July 2017, 03:04 AM

Thanks again, AG.
I had found that turban thread too. Some properly beautiful examples.

There isn't much to provide scale in those pics...but it appears the blades have a more or less uniform lozenge-shaped cross section. That seems different from the piece in question, no? Could mine have been subjected to some serious stock removal?

A. G. Maisey · 6th July 2017, 08:51 AM

How do you reckon this blade might have looked before it was carved with a naga, Shayde?

Whether it was carved from an old Tuban, or some other old, beefy blade, or whether it was forged with the intent of carving it with a naga, it is absolutely certain that the cross section was way different to what you can see now.

shayde78 · 8th July 2017, 03:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

How do you reckon this blade might have looked before it was carved with a naga, Shayde?

Whether it was carved from an old Tuban, or some other old, beefy blade, or whether it was forged with the intent of carving it with a naga, it is absolutely certain that the cross section was way different to what you can see now.

I don't have an answer, other than to note the blade is now thin (compared to a tuban), so a great deal of material must have been removed. Seems like a loss

David · 8th July 2017, 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by shayde78

Seems like a loss

Generally speaking it is...

3rd July 2017, 08:12 AM	#1
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,992	A post in the wrong hole.

3rd July 2017, 08:16 AM	#2
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,992	Its just experience Shadye. +60 years worth. That plus the fact that I've handled literally thousands of blades and have been taught by probably the best and most knowledgeable teachers of their generation, two of whom were Surakarta Karaton Empus. There is a good Tuban blade shown in this thread, and Jean has shown a pic of one of the super-size Tuban blades:- http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=22862

6th July 2017, 03:04 AM	#3
shayde78 Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 445	Thanks again, AG. I had found that turban thread too. Some properly beautiful examples. There isn't much to provide scale in those pics...but it appears the blades have a more or less uniform lozenge-shaped cross section. That seems different from the piece in question, no? Could mine have been subjected to some serious stock removal?

6th July 2017, 08:51 AM	#4
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,992	How do you reckon this blade might have looked before it was carved with a naga, Shayde? Whether it was carved from an old Tuban, or some other old, beefy blade, or whether it was forged with the intent of carving it with a naga, it is absolutely certain that the cross section was way different to what you can see now.