chilanum/ kanjar daggers Fakes ? Dates ?

francantolin · 24th April 2017, 08:01 PM

Hello Marius,

thank you,
I'll look about what you call ''pattern welded''
here another picture given by the seller of the ''pdf'' dagger- chilanum,

the hilt was complete on this picture but now it's damaged a little, that's why the seller makes a low price.

Do you think it's not a bone hilt ? Maybe Ivory

or plastic ? ? !!!!! ....

Rick · 24th April 2017, 09:40 PM

If those pictures are all you have to go by; speaking for myself I would pass.

About the broken tip of the knucklebow; I thought those were generally made of steel, in which case it would be quite a hard thing to break.

Is there a return guarantee?

Ian · 25th April 2017, 12:29 AM

Be cautious here. Can you handle these or are they being sold to you via the pictures? I would not buy them myself if only the pictures are available.

Ian.

mariusgmioc · 25th April 2017, 03:44 AM

It is as Rick said.

The knucklebow is supposed to serve as a protection for the fingers they are normally made of steel in one piece with th cross-guard and the hilt.

Whether bone or plastic, the second one is fake.

francantolin · 25th April 2017, 06:26 AM

Ok thanks all,

For the ''bone'' hilt kanjar-chilanum,
I was comparing with old ''precious'' items with jade, ivory hilt...

But indeed never saw a chilanum hilt model not made of steel or metal.

I'll look for return guarantee cause I can't handle it !

francantolin · 25th April 2017, 06:58 PM

Hilt like this one ... ( I found the picture on internet, India 19th )

made of ivory, the fingers protection will not be helpful, purely aesthetic ...

BANDOOK · 26th April 2017, 07:44 AM

Please do not touch them,they are reproductions from Jodhpur ,Rajasthan
I have seen many appearing in auctions being sold as antiques
best regards
rajesh

24th April 2017, 08:01 PM	#1
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 906	Hello Marius, thank you, I'll look about what you call ''pattern welded'' here another picture given by the seller of the ''pdf'' dagger- chilanum, the hilt was complete on this picture but now it's damaged a little, that's why the seller makes a low price. Do you think it's not a bone hilt ? Maybe Ivory or plastic ? ? !!!!! .... Attached Images

25th April 2017, 06:58 PM	#6
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 906	Hilt like this one ... ( I found the picture on internet, India 19th ) made of ivory, the fingers protection will not be helpful, purely aesthetic ... Attached Images

24th April 2017, 09:40 PM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,348	If those pictures are all you have to go by; speaking for myself I would pass. About the broken tip of the knucklebow; I thought those were generally made of steel, in which case it would be quite a hard thing to break. Is there a return guarantee?

25th April 2017, 12:29 AM	#3
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,454	Be cautious here. Can you handle these or are they being sold to you via the pictures? I would not buy them myself if only the pictures are available. Ian.

25th April 2017, 03:44 AM	#4
mariusgmioc Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Austria Posts: 1,911	It is as Rick said. The knucklebow is supposed to serve as a protection for the fingers they are normally made of steel in one piece with th cross-guard and the hilt. Whether bone or plastic, the second one is fake.

25th April 2017, 06:26 AM	#5
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 906	Ok thanks all, For the ''bone'' hilt kanjar-chilanum, I was comparing with old ''precious'' items with jade, ivory hilt... But indeed never saw a chilanum hilt model not made of steel or metal. I'll look for return guarantee cause I can't handle it !

26th April 2017, 07:44 AM	#7
BANDOOK Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: AUCKLAND,NEW ZEALAND Posts: 627	Please do not touch them,they are reproductions from Jodhpur ,Rajasthan I have seen many appearing in auctions being sold as antiques best regards rajesh