european helmet

Jim McDougall · 5th April 2017, 11:58 PM

In the thread recently posted, 'a siege weight helmet', I came across the outstanding article in Park Lane Arms Fair, Spring 2005 journal, "What Do Armourers Marks Mean? by Chris Dobson, master armourer.
This article addresses these practices in detail and presents a fascinating look at the systems of stamps and numbering armourers used, giving us insight into these many punched dots, squiggles and other curious marks.

ulfberth · 6th April 2017, 10:47 AM

Hi Jim,

that is most interesting information you have found there, what does it say ? or can you post it ?

kind regards

Ulfberth

fernando · 6th April 2017, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ulfberth

Hi Jim, ...that is most interesting information you have found there, what does it say ? or can you post it ? ...

Yes, that would be so much interesting

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Jim McDougall · 7th April 2017, 08:11 PM

Guys, I was remiss in not adding this, and simply citing the article for the reference for future research of others. I am quite frankly not very adept (actually quite Luddite) at technical matters, thus often hesitant at adding links etc.
In this case, the article was not online, but in a physical copy I had here, and my wife and I were trying to scan it to post. We made a number of tries with files too large , but finally got this so hope it reads OK.

I am very grateful for the detailed and thorough material you guys and so many here on these pages tirelessly add (Fernando especially your very helpful translations from your resources). I am trying to get better at this so I can add material quid pro quo.

Here is the article by Mr. Dobson, from the London Arms Fair, Spring 2005.

ulfberth · 8th April 2017, 08:14 AM

Thank's Jim,

that's great documentation that I have not seen before.
It shows the exact 4 struck point mark like on francois helmet !

kind regards

Ulberth

fernando · 8th April 2017, 11:16 AM

Thanks for the excelent gift, Jim.
Your'e a good man

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Jim McDougall · 8th April 2017, 05:50 PM

Thanks guys! I'm glad I found this article and that it so well supports what we learned here from Ulfberth and Alan about this practice! Its great learning new things and getting perspective on armor.

5th April 2017, 11:58 PM	#1
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,292	In the thread recently posted, 'a siege weight helmet', I came across the outstanding article in Park Lane Arms Fair, Spring 2005 journal, "What Do Armourers Marks Mean? by Chris Dobson, master armourer. This article addresses these practices in detail and presents a fascinating look at the systems of stamps and numbering armourers used, giving us insight into these many punched dots, squiggles and other curious marks.

6th April 2017, 10:47 AM	#2
ulfberth Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 428	Hi Jim, that is most interesting information you have found there, what does it say ? or can you post it ? kind regards Ulfberth

8th April 2017, 08:14 AM	#5
ulfberth Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 428	Thank's Jim, that's great documentation that I have not seen before. It shows the exact 4 struck point mark like on francois helmet ! kind regards Ulberth

8th April 2017, 11:16 AM	#6
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Thanks for the excelent gift, Jim. Your'e a good man .

8th April 2017, 05:50 PM	#7
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,292	Thanks guys! I'm glad I found this article and that it so well supports what we learned here from Ulfberth and Alan about this practice! Its great learning new things and getting perspective on armor.