Period Pics Of Keris In Hand or Being Worn

Green · 4th April 2017, 03:43 PM

as a comparison, here is the latest picture of the current and the new king of Malaysia (the king is rotated among the sultans of various states and each king reign for five years) wearing the royal regalia : notice the two kerisses . The new king is from the state of Kelantan.

Paul de Souza · 6th April 2017, 11:53 AM

An interesting tidbit - correct me if I am wrong Green - the keris blade the Agong is holding is made from 9 different royal keris taken from each of the 9 states with Sultans. They were smelted together and used to form the State Keris the Agong is holding.

I remember coming across a book by a British colonial administrator detailing the campaign to put down a rebellion in Kelantan in at the turn of the 19th-20th century. The rebellion was against the Sultan and the Sultan had British help to put it down. There was a picture of a detachment of loyal local Malay militia loyal to the Sultan with their keris in their sarong for all to see. Usually in formal or peace time photos, the keris would be covered with a flap of the sarong or absent all together. Alas, I cannot remember the author's name or the title of the book. It was the days before the handy phone-camera.

David · 6th April 2017, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul de Souza

An interesting tidbit - correct me if I am wrong Green - the keris blade the Agong is holding is made from 9 different royal keris taken from each of the 9 states with Sultans. They were smelted together and used to form the State Keris the Agong is holding.

That is an interesting tidbit Paul. Do you know approximately when this keris was forged from these older keris?

Green · 7th April 2017, 12:22 AM

Paul de Souza,

I do not know anything about the two keris shown in the agong pic so can not comment on your interesting info about how they were made.

However it is quite a common practise even now in Malaysia to get old blades (especially heavily damaged ones ) and make into a new blade.

With regards to the rebellion I think you're referring to "Tok Janggut" ?. He did not rebel against the sultan but the british colonial rule and especially the new tax imposed by the colonials at the time. He was and still a very respected figure among the kelantanese.

Paul de Souza · 7th April 2017, 09:07 AM

Hi David,

I would guess around 1956-57. Just before the independence of Malaya.

Hi Green,

Yah. Think it is Tok Janggut. Must pay a visit to the National Library soon.

Laowang · 2nd August 2017, 01:08 AM

Here's one from the collection of KITLV/Leiden University.

Laowang · 2nd August 2017, 01:10 AM

If I think about it, not that different from the one Green posted, albeit about a century (give or take) apart.

4th April 2017, 03:43 PM	#1
Green Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Malaysia Posts: 321	as a comparison, here is the latest picture of the current and the new king of Malaysia (the king is rotated among the sultans of various states and each king reign for five years) wearing the royal regalia : notice the two kerisses . The new king is from the state of Kelantan. Attached Images

2nd August 2017, 01:08 AM	#6
Laowang Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: 40˚00' N, 83˚00' W Posts: 52	Here's one from the collection of KITLV/Leiden University. Attached Images

6th April 2017, 11:53 AM	#2
Paul de Souza Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 66	An interesting tidbit - correct me if I am wrong Green - the keris blade the Agong is holding is made from 9 different royal keris taken from each of the 9 states with Sultans. They were smelted together and used to form the State Keris the Agong is holding. I remember coming across a book by a British colonial administrator detailing the campaign to put down a rebellion in Kelantan in at the turn of the 19th-20th century. The rebellion was against the Sultan and the Sultan had British help to put it down. There was a picture of a detachment of loyal local Malay militia loyal to the Sultan with their keris in their sarong for all to see. Usually in formal or peace time photos, the keris would be covered with a flap of the sarong or absent all together. Alas, I cannot remember the author's name or the title of the book. It was the days before the handy phone-camera.

7th April 2017, 12:22 AM	#4
Green Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Malaysia Posts: 321	Paul de Souza, I do not know anything about the two keris shown in the agong pic so can not comment on your interesting info about how they were made. However it is quite a common practise even now in Malaysia to get old blades (especially heavily damaged ones ) and make into a new blade. With regards to the rebellion I think you're referring to "Tok Janggut" ?. He did not rebel against the sultan but the british colonial rule and especially the new tax imposed by the colonials at the time. He was and still a very respected figure among the kelantanese.

7th April 2017, 09:07 AM	#5
Paul de Souza Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 66	Hi David, I would guess around 1956-57. Just before the independence of Malaya. Hi Green, Yah. Think it is Tok Janggut. Must pay a visit to the National Library soon.

2nd August 2017, 01:10 AM	#7
Laowang Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: 40˚00' N, 83˚00' W Posts: 52	If I think about it, not that different from the one Green posted, albeit about a century (give or take) apart.