Ethnographic Arms & Armour
 

Go Back   Ethnographic Arms & Armour > Discussion Forums > European Armoury
FAQ Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 3rd April 2017, 05:46 PM   #1
fernando
(deceased)
 
fernando's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Portugal
Posts: 9,694
Default

Your'e the Irish ... not me but, isn't Mc Dermott of Dublin spelt with a duble t, while Mc Dermot from London only has a single t, like in the attached example, in comparison with yours ?

http://www.aucklandmuseum.com/collec...-object-775573

But i am far from knowing a single bit about this subject; this is just to tease you ... and entice you to ask your wife's opinion .


.
Attached Images
 
fernando is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd April 2017, 06:20 PM   #2
corrado26
Member
 
corrado26's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Black Forest, Germany
Posts: 1,231
Default

In "Der Neue Stöckel" you find two McDermotts with double T: Henry in Dublin ca. 1800 and Farrell in Dublin too, 1796-1827. He has one or two Ts in his Name.
corrado26
corrado26 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4th April 2017, 08:55 AM   #3
Kmaddock
Member
 
Kmaddock's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Ireland
Posts: 543
Default

Hi
Hi Frenando, in the link you posted (thank you) Mc Dermot is spelled with one and two t's in the article itself, ??
The one or two T's seems to be flexible
They seem to be sold (or marketed) now as an Irish maker with either one or two T but this is probably just because the Irish guns sell for more.
Do you agree though on it being Mc Dermot? ie the expert opinion of my wife!
With the Irish registration on the barrel I am happy to add to my collection anyway and when i purchased it there was nothing at all to be seen on the lockplate so any maker is good for me.
I well hopefully doing the brazing job tonight to start the job on the replacing the hammer.
I will take some photos to show how the work progresses and how i approach the missing hammer problem that i so often encounter.
Regards
Ken
Kmaddock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4th April 2017, 12:21 PM   #4
fernando
(deceased)
 
fernando's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Portugal
Posts: 9,694
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kmaddock
... Hi Frenando, in the link you posted (thank you) Mc Dermot is spelled with one and two t's in the article itself, ??...
If you click on the link i posted, you will see they spell it with a single t.
fernando is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st May 2017, 06:54 AM   #5
Philip
Member
 
Philip's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: California
Posts: 1,036
Default a gun with a couple makeovers in its history

This probably started life as a single-barreled sporting gun, the style is in keeping with the late 18th / turn of the 19th cent. which matches up with the dates of the McDermot(t)s one of whom was its likely maker.

Originally a flintlock, converted to percussion. The extra holes at the forward end of the lockplate were for the mounting of the frizzen pivot screw and spring. The bottom contour of the bolster into which the percussion nipple was screwed was made to fit the void on the top forward edge of the lockplate which has the shape of the former priming-pan from its days as a flintlock. Behind where the hammer used to me is a brazed outline of a sliding safety that was removed for some reason. These safety catches were an extra feature usually reserved for the higher-priced guns and rifles made for the sporting market.

Needless to say, the barrel has been severely shortened from an original length of probably 34-38 in. For use by a poacher or gangster, perhaps? A pity that it has been so abused and neglected, it was probably quite a fine gun in its prime.
Philip is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 06:18 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Posts are regarded as being copyrighted by their authors and the act of posting material is deemed to be a granting of an irrevocable nonexclusive license for display here.