rare dhapur Singo Sineba

[Roland_M]

Originally Posted by David

Roland asks "Artificially aged for what?"

David,

your words makes sense to me.
Master Maiseys comment allows interpretations in different directions.

I believe, collectors as you, Alan or Detlef easily see the inconsistency compared to old blades. For a beginner like me the blade is too corroded.

I think your statement about the local preferences is very conclusive.


Roland

[Rick]

I can testify to the artificial ageing of new blades.
It took my contact a few years to find me a new keris buda that hadn't been artificially aged.
That is how prevalent this artificial ageing is...

[Sajen]

I am nearly sure that we see here a reworked old blade, the singa is added newly, that's the reason that the greneng is worn like this but the contours of the singa are so sharp and the penis still so large. Also the typical Sineba bulge seems not correct to my eyes, the form is not typical IMVHO. But frankly said I've handled only very few Sineba blades so it's just my impression.

Regards,
Detlef

[David]

Originally Posted by Sajen

I am nearly sure that we see here a reworked old blade, the singa is added newly, that's the reason that the greneng is worn like this but the contours of the singa are so sharp and the penis still so large. Also the typical Sineba bulge seems not correct to my eyes, the form is not typical IMVHO. But frankly said I've handled only very few Sineba blades so it's just my impression.

Detlef, this explanation is a very possible one indeed and perhaps more likely than a new blade that has been aged, given what we can see in these photographs. But from the quality of the images to the massive amount of oil on the blade it is not very easy to tell one way or another if this is an altered old blade, but it is certainly one way that this creation may have come into being.

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by David

But from the quality of the images to the massive amount of oil on the blade it is not very easy to tell one way or another if this is an altered old blade, but it is certainly one way that this creation may have come into being.

Hi David,

that's the reason why I have asked in my first post to this thread for an unoiled and maybe fresh stained blade.

Regards,
Detlef

[drdavid]

It is hard to determine much from the photos but on Donny's 3rd image (side on, greneng to the left) I wonder whether I might be seeing a weld line from above the Singo's head to a point just in front of the pesi
DrD

[A. G. Maisey]

What is happening with Fido's foot?

Perhaps there is just the smallest possibility that this entire object has been built around a genuinely old gonjo?

Look at the grain in the metal, and the surface texture : compare the gonjo with the wilah.

It is always very difficult to appraise any keris from a photo, and where an educated seller has an intention to deceive, it is almost always impossible to know what one is looking at in an online image.

But we can guess.