Bronze keris ?

satsujinken · 23rd January 2017, 10:37 AM

label reads :

straight keris : bronze
dhapur : sinom
tangguh : mataraman
Rongko : ladrang solo
wood : sono keling
pendhak : slorok kuningan sari
length : 36 cm, peksi 7.5 cm

Donny

David · 23rd January 2017, 04:26 PM

So Donny, it the seller's story more potent than your own senses and suspicions?

mariusgmioc · 23rd January 2017, 04:33 PM

I don't get it?!

What's such a big deal to make a blade of bronze?!

I guess one can make a Keris blade even of aluminium, solid gold, or even plastic but does this automatically make it an authentic and collectable keris?!

Albeit I wouldn't mind collecting kerises made of solid gold.

Jean · 23rd January 2017, 05:27 PM

Interesting blade, it does not look very recent from the pics, you can see the cleaning product deposits left in the cavities. The style is rather PB than Mataram? Twenty years ago the TMII Museum Pusaka used to sell some quite good and certified krisses.
Regards

David · 23rd January 2017, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mariusgmioc

I don't get it?!

What's such a big deal to make a blade of bronze?!

I guess one can make a Keris blade even of aluminium, solid gold, or even plastic but does this automatically make it an authentic and collectable keris?!

Albeit I wouldn't mind collecting kerises made of solid gold.

Actual Marius, old bronze keris are a real thing and may in some ways be more valuable to a collector of keris than one made of solid gold.

The real question here would be is this a legitimate old bronze keris. I have some serious doubts.

mariusgmioc · 23rd January 2017, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David

Actual Marius, old bronze keris are a real thing and may in some ways be more valuable to a collector of keris than one made of solid gold.

The real question here would be is this a legitimate old bronze keris. I have some serious doubts.

Thank you David for the explanation!

I would still prefer a gold Keris to a bronze one.

mariusgmioc · 23rd January 2017, 07:02 PM

Regarding the age of the Keris, my bet is on very recent production by casting.

A. G. Maisey · 23rd January 2017, 07:45 PM

Yes.

Battara · 23rd January 2017, 11:57 PM

My question is would the bronze make this more powerful or talismanic than the usual kris?

satsujinken · 24th January 2017, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

Yes.

so my guess is right ? kamardikan ?

I believed the previous owner used metal cleaners to clean the blade, but hey, the metal do looked like metal used in gamelan

Would you mind explaining more about bronze keris and blood sacrifice, Alan ?

thank you in advance

Donny

satsujinken · 24th January 2017, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by David

So Donny, it the seller's story more potent than your own senses and suspicions?

nah, I always buy the blade, not the story

but I do have my limitations when it comes to knowledge and experience. That's why I come here

Donny

23rd January 2017, 10:37 AM	#1
satsujinken Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Surabaya - Indonesia Posts: 199	label reads : straight keris : bronze dhapur : sinom tangguh : mataraman Rongko : ladrang solo wood : sono keling pendhak : slorok kuningan sari length : 36 cm, peksi 7.5 cm Donny

23rd January 2017, 04:26 PM	#2
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,218	So Donny, it the seller's story more potent than your own senses and suspicions?

23rd January 2017, 04:33 PM	#3
mariusgmioc Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Austria Posts: 1,911	I don't get it?! What's such a big deal to make a blade of bronze?! I guess one can make a Keris blade even of aluminium, solid gold, or even plastic but does this automatically make it an authentic and collectable keris?! Albeit I wouldn't mind collecting kerises made of solid gold.

23rd January 2017, 05:27 PM	#4
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	Interesting blade, it does not look very recent from the pics, you can see the cleaning product deposits left in the cavities. The style is rather PB than Mataram? Twenty years ago the TMII Museum Pusaka used to sell some quite good and certified krisses. Regards

23rd January 2017, 07:02 PM	#7
mariusgmioc Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Austria Posts: 1,911	Regarding the age of the Keris, my bet is on very recent production by casting.

23rd January 2017, 07:45 PM	#8
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,015	Yes.

23rd January 2017, 11:57 PM	#9
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,280	My question is would the bronze make this more powerful or talismanic than the usual kris?