Kris

[Ian]

Rarely do I disagree with Jose, but on this occasion I think he is mistaken in his attribution of the blade to the Maguindanao, at least if we are to believe Cato's classification.

Attached is a scan of Cato's Figure 39-42,* which I have labeled A,B,C,D: A = Sulu kris; B = Maranao; C = Maguindanao; and D = a "crossover" form. A picture of your kris (attached) shows the "elephant trunk" area is most consistent with the Maranao example (B) shown by Cato.

To quote Cato (p. 68):

The type that is distinctly Maranao begins with an elongated trunk [I think the tip of your trunk may have broken off]. The mouth cavity, while still present, is quite narrow, and the lower jaw runs parallel to the guard. While the Sulu, Maguindanao and "crossover" forms of the elephant's head/trunk motif display concave cavities beneath the lower jaw, the Maranao configuration does not.

Ian.


*Cato, R. Moro Swords. Graham Brash: Singapore, 1996, pp. 68-69.

[Battara]

Actually I was referring to the "tooth kris", the one with the fossil molar ivory.

On the one you are referencing, Ian, I agree.

[Ian]

Originally Posted by Battara

Actually I was referring to the "tooth kris", the one with the fossil molar ivory.

On the one you are referencing, Ian, I agree.

My apologies Jose. I thought you referred to the other one.

[Battara]

Originally Posted by Ian

My apologies Jose. I thought you referred to the other one.

Oh no problem Ian. I like to learn.

You know, once I thought I made an error, but I found out that I was mistaken...

[DaveS]

Chris: Sorry, but we don't do Pasadena anymore, since they cut the show from three days to two. To much work for just two days. But we still do the Pomona Militaria Show in May. Hope to see you there...........Dave.

[CCUAL]

Originally Posted by DaveS

Chris: Sorry, but we don't do Pasadena anymore, since they cut the show from three days to two. To much work for just two days. But we still do the Pomona Militaria Show in May. Hope to see you there...........Dave.

I will see you guys in Pomona this May then....Chris

[mross]

Good eye, I think catches like this are the most fun.

[CCUAL]

Originally Posted by mross

Good eye, I think catches like this are the most fun.

You're very right, Mross. Ebay is still a good source from time to time, I caught 3 very nice twistcore krises this year alone, 2 were under hundred bucks, way below the of bidding war radar.

[David]

Originally Posted by CCUAL

You're very right, Mross. Ebay is still a good source from time to time, I caught 3 very nice twistcore krises this year alone, 2 were under hundred bucks, way below the of bidding war radar.

I agree Chris, there are still sleepers to be found if you have a combination of a good eye and a good deal of luck.

[CCUAL]

Originally Posted by David

I agree Chris, there are still sleepers to be found if you have a combination of a good eye and a good deal of luck.

True David. When ever I have time and free from any thing that is when I do my scouting. I take my time searching from item to item, each category that's link to what I am searching for. Two of the krises that I found this year were misspelled and it was buried in no where, I was surprised when I found it, I crossed finger a bit hoping that no one will fight me against it, and sure enough. none

I also take my time looking deep into those thick rusted photos, looking for signs, very rewarding at the end..

[CCUAL]

Here's one of the twistcore krises that I got from ebay this year. It has a very robust blade. If you look at the last photo carefully, evidence of vein like pattern seen on twistcore blades. Re-sized photos from seller.