help with identity & origin

ariel · 25th February 2006, 03:49 PM

Going back to the origial Yataghan in this discussion thread: here is another one just like that.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Rare-Straight-Bl...QQcmdZViewItem

Any food for thought? Personally, I do not believe it is a modern replacement just something we do not know much about.....

Dom · 25th February 2006, 04:47 PM

you are right Ariel, old weapon, but that no embellishment may be posterior comes to disturb the identification

the stamping of the other blade is certainly recent, without relationship to its origin, and is creating us a trouble

à +

Dom

mavi1970 · 25th February 2006, 05:30 PM

I jsut looked at the sword that ended and that was noticed as being similair, the ears of that yataghan have the brass work covering probably either metal or something else (plated brass), it is evident with the center rib where the brass plating has cracked and the thickness is seen. Whereas the one I have the ears are actually cast brass, and two full peices one for either ear, then the center has a black spacer of either bone or wood, then the actual blade extension. So its quite different manufactures. It is very confusing now to actually place an origin, but i think as discussed it might be christian, maybe greek-ottoman, so a very rare peice indeed. thanks for your help. this is such a nice site to discuss items people own and collect. keep up the good work.

eftihis · 27th February 2006, 10:17 PM

Hi,
I am posting photos of a long straight yataghan dagger, which has a brass scabbard. But the decoration here is engraved. I believe that it is from North Greece or at least Balkan area. All these examples we saw are connected ithink.

mavi1970 · 28th February 2006, 01:10 AM

similair in materials used, but still the one I have is greatly different in style, and I haven't seen anything close to it anywhere.

27th February 2006, 10:17 PM	#4
eftihis Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chania Crete Greece Posts: 511	Hi, I am posting photos of a long straight yataghan dagger, which has a brass scabbard. But the decoration here is engraved. I believe that it is from North Greece or at least Balkan area. All these examples we saw are connected ithink. Attached Images Last edited by eftihis; 27th February 2006 at 10:42 PM.

25th February 2006, 03:49 PM	#1
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Going back to the origial Yataghan in this discussion thread: here is another one just like that. http://cgi.ebay.com/Rare-Straight-Bl...QQcmdZViewItem Any food for thought? Personally, I do not believe it is a modern replacement just something we do not know much about.....

25th February 2006, 04:47 PM	#2
Dom Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Paris (FR*) Cairo (EG) Posts: 1,142	you are right Ariel, old weapon, but that no embellishment may be posterior comes to disturb the identification the stamping of the other blade is certainly recent, without relationship to its origin, and is creating us a trouble à + Dom

25th February 2006, 05:30 PM	#3
mavi1970 Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: canada Posts: 90	I jsut looked at the sword that ended and that was noticed as being similair, the ears of that yataghan have the brass work covering probably either metal or something else (plated brass), it is evident with the center rib where the brass plating has cracked and the thickness is seen. Whereas the one I have the ears are actually cast brass, and two full peices one for either ear, then the center has a black spacer of either bone or wood, then the actual blade extension. So its quite different manufactures. It is very confusing now to actually place an origin, but i think as discussed it might be christian, maybe greek-ottoman, so a very rare peice indeed. thanks for your help. this is such a nice site to discuss items people own and collect. keep up the good work.

28th February 2006, 01:10 AM	#5
mavi1970 Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: canada Posts: 90	similair in materials used, but still the one I have is greatly different in style, and I haven't seen anything close to it anywhere.