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Old 18th December 2016, 09:37 AM   #1
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DEAR FRIENDS I BOUGHT MYSELF A XMAS GIFT,THIS ALGERIAN MIQULET IS 164 CMS OVER 6 FEET ,HAS HAD MUCH USE,DECORATED WITH IVORY,SILVER AND RED CORAL
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RICK AND KUBUR NEED YOUR COMMENTS THANKS

Looking at the pan cover I see what could be an inscription ...see your 7th picture... The left narrow panel of the pan cover .

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Old 19th December 2016, 10:51 AM   #2
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Looking at the pan cover I see what could be an inscription ...see your 7th picture... The left narrow panel of the pan cover .

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YES IBRAHIIM,SAALAMS I SEE IT BUT NO IDEA OF TRANSLATION MAKERS NAME,AM NOT BOLD AS RICK TO OPEN UP THE GUN AND DO COMPLETE RESTORATION,SCARED TO BREAK PARTS ,BUT WILL TAKE IT TO A LOCAL GUNSMITH AND DO WHAT RICK SUGGESTED.
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Old 19th December 2016, 12:13 PM   #3
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Hello everyone

If the larger spring has escaped from its position on the front of the cat's foot, when it has reached the full cock position, it means that the end of the spring or foot of the cat foot has been broken. It is what you see in the photographs, the cat's foot has reached the extreme position, and the spring has come out

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Old 19th December 2016, 11:30 PM   #4
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Default PLEASE POST YOUR EXAMPLES OF ALGERIAN POWDER FLASKS

CAN WE SEE EXAMPLES OF POWDER FLASK FROM ALGERIA WHICH WERE USED DURING THE SAME PERIOD OF THESE MUSKETS,I HAVE POWDER FLASKS FROM NEIGHBOURING MOROCCO BUT NONE FROM ALGERIA,REGARDS RAJESH
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Old 20th December 2016, 02:04 PM   #5
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CAN WE SEE EXAMPLES OF POWDER FLASK FROM ALGERIA WHICH WERE USED DURING THE SAME PERIOD OF THESE MUSKETS,I HAVE POWDER FLASKS FROM NEIGHBOURING MOROCCO BUT NONE FROM ALGERIA,REGARDS RAJESH
Hi Rajesh.

That's one I don't have in my collection. Like you, I have ones traceable to Morocco, but not Algeria. It seems many of the Algerian flasks were made of wood. Artzi has had a couple for sale in the past. And I should have bought one while I had the chance. But I haven't seen anything offered for a while. But I haven't been looking very hard either, being busy with other gun projects.
I know of one currently for sale. But the seller wants wayyyy too much for it.
Maybe one of the other Forum members has an example?

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Old 27th December 2016, 07:14 AM   #6
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Hi Rajesh.

That's one I don't have in my collection. Like you, I have ones traceable to Morocco, but not Algeria. It seems many of the Algerian flasks were made of wood. Artzi has had a couple for sale in the past. And I should have bought one while I had the chance. But I haven't seen anything offered for a while. But I haven't been looking very hard either, being busy with other gun projects.
I know of one currently for sale. But the seller wants wayyyy too much for it.
Maybe one of the other Forum members has an example?

Rick
Thanks Rick,will look around as I definitely want one example for my Algerian musket as they will look good togather,Regards RAJESH
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Old 27th December 2016, 02:36 PM   #7
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Thanks Rick,will look around as I definitely want one example for my Algerian musket as they will look good togather,Regards RAJESH
Good luck on your search. The photos on the stamps that Kubur posted are typical of the wood styles I've seen. And there does seem to be some cross usage/design between Algeria and Morocco with these flasks. They don't seem to turn up for sale very often.

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Old 20th December 2016, 03:59 PM   #8
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CAN WE SEE EXAMPLES OF POWDER FLASK FROM ALGERIA WHICH WERE USED DURING THE SAME PERIOD OF THESE MUSKETS,I HAVE POWDER FLASKS FROM NEIGHBOURING MOROCCO BUT NONE FROM ALGERIA,REGARDS RAJESH
Hi Rajesh,

Rick is always right : wood and even overpriced object.
I attach two classical examples.
Please, note that some of the so-called Moroccans were probably Algerians in fact.
Plus you have another kind, a small powder horn made of full silver and for the elite in Algiers, I will post one photo later...

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Old 27th December 2016, 07:12 AM   #9
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Thanks Kubur
nice examples on the stamps,so we know know what they look like at auctions,sales etc
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Old 20th December 2016, 01:51 PM   #10
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Hello everyone

If the larger spring has escaped from its position on the front of the cat's foot, when it has reached the full cock position, it means that the end of the spring or foot of the cat foot has been broken. It is what you see in the photographs, the cat's foot has reached the extreme position, and the spring has come out

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Of course, what Fernando K is saying is correct. Where the toe of the hammer meets the mainspring, if either/both is broke, the mainspring would fall out of position as shown. This would require a more serious repair. But it can be done if desired. To me, neither looks broke from the photos. But it could have happened long ago back in the period. It's just too difficult to tell for sure from the photos. But the gunsmith will probably know. The gun does appear to have seen regular usage. It may have been used up to the point of a broke mainspring or hammer. In any case, let us know what the gunsmith thinks. Thanks.

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