Barong origin

danny1976 · 11th December 2016, 12:22 PM

Hi Guy's

Thanks for the warm welcome back

hmm hoped i had a good find but is seems someone did some creative work on it ..
Maybe i will ask someone to restore the silver sleeve back on the hilt , on the other hand if this is a piece of history ( war bring back ) so maybe it is better if i leave it like this ...
Opinions about this ?

The blade thickness at the spine is 5 mm , I attached a photo.

History about this one , i really don't know because in Holland we don't have any history with the Philippines so not a war bring back.
I did buy this barong in a lot together with some Indonesian pieces, a rudus/ rencong and a Javanese sword .

The come from a old collection, that's al i know .
I will post the rudus later just for the fun of sharing and learning.

Regards,
Danny

Ian · 11th December 2016, 02:34 PM

Danny, thanks for the better pictures of the hilt. They do show an intentional covering of the brass (?) punto and braided wire wrapping with resin or pitch of some sort. This was usually done to prevent shiny pieces reflecting light and revealing the owner's position or presence to an adversary. Both indigenous and non-indigenous folks have used this simple method, especially in mainland SE Asia. The Dayak also use resin on the hilts of some of their swords (parang ihlang, etc.). The use of resin on the hilt of barung is not a practice of the Moro people AFAIK.

I would leave it "as is." It tells a story and if you can identify more of its history all the better. Just my personal opinion.

Ian

danny1976 · 11th December 2016, 09:49 PM

Everybody thanks for the reactions.

Ian ,
interesting story about preventing the shinning of the copper it makes the story nicer

I think i will leave it like this.

Regards,
Danny

11th December 2016, 12:22 PM	#1
danny1976 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Holland Posts: 245	Hi Guy's Thanks for the warm welcome back hmm hoped i had a good find but is seems someone did some creative work on it .. Maybe i will ask someone to restore the silver sleeve back on the hilt , on the other hand if this is a piece of history ( war bring back ) so maybe it is better if i leave it like this ... Opinions about this ? The blade thickness at the spine is 5 mm , I attached a photo. History about this one , i really don't know because in Holland we don't have any history with the Philippines so not a war bring back. I did buy this barong in a lot together with some Indonesian pieces, a rudus/ rencong and a Javanese sword . The come from a old collection, that's al i know . I will post the rudus later just for the fun of sharing and learning. Regards, Danny Attached Images

11th December 2016, 02:34 PM	#2
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,399	Danny, thanks for the better pictures of the hilt. They do show an intentional covering of the brass (?) punto and braided wire wrapping with resin or pitch of some sort. This was usually done to prevent shiny pieces reflecting light and revealing the owner's position or presence to an adversary. Both indigenous and non-indigenous folks have used this simple method, especially in mainland SE Asia. The Dayak also use resin on the hilts of some of their swords (parang ihlang, etc.). The use of resin on the hilt of barung is not a practice of the Moro people AFAIK. I would leave it "as is." It tells a story and if you can identify more of its history all the better. Just my personal opinion. Ian

11th December 2016, 09:49 PM	#3
danny1976 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Holland Posts: 245	Everybody thanks for the reactions. Ian , interesting story about preventing the shinning of the copper it makes the story nicer I think i will leave it like this. Regards, Danny