Mughal? or Indian dagger?.

[mariusgmioc]

Originally Posted by Battara

I must also add that the motifs and style of carvings on the hilt are not typically Mughal. Closest I have seen are more related to Persian, but the quality of the carving again is not like that found in Persian ivory hilts (albeit a softer material).

I must also agree with the possibility of dremel tool work looking at the micro-pictures.

As Oliver pointed out, the blade looks rather typical Turkish made and the decorations on the hilt look Persian style, yet, they are quite different from the genuine Persian works.

The blade also looks rather thin and flat like cut from sheet/band stock steel and not forged.

So I would bet on Turkish origin, attempting to immitate Persian style.

[donsamadhi]

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Alex

Hello everybody

I see there are a few comments since I last was here. I have to say that it is unlikely that there is some using of tools type dremel. The hilt was made at the latest time 1945-1948 and it is solid information. I think there could be used some rotary tools but I doubt they were powered by electricity. The stone is rather the bowenit and for sure it isn`t an onyx.
Thank you for all comments.
Best regards.
Alex

[ariel]

I think Oliver was, as usual, very polite and generous. The silvery decoration on the blade looks very "Syrian" to me. The blade /tang transition ( shoulders) are not even straight, with a gap at the point of insertion. The carvings are crude and, IMHO, made with Dremel tool. On that I am in complete accord with Marius and Battara.
My 5 cents worth is that it is a pretty crude and unprofessionally-made tourist item made somewhere in the Middle East within the past 10 years. Turkey and Syria come to mind in the very first row of candidates.

[iskender]

" die hoffnung stirbt zuletzt" crude translation "hope is the last to die" iskender

[donsamadhi]

Originally Posted by ariel

I think Oliver was, as usual, very polite and generous. The silvery decoration on the blade looks very "Syrian" to me. The blade /tang transition ( shoulders) are not even straight, with a gap at the point of insertion. The carvings are crude and, IMHO, made with Dremel tool. On that I am in complete accord with Marius and Battara.
My 5 cents worth is that it is a pretty crude and unprofessionally-made tourist item made somewhere in the Middle East within the past 10 years. Turkey and Syria come to mind in the very first row of candidates.

I wonder why you are convinced of this dremel. The subject was lying for 50 years in one of the houses. I have total confidence! I know successor, the owner has been dead for 30 years. I observe the suggestion of a little discouraging ;/