request for translation

Kurt · 31st October 2016, 07:40 PM

Battara have a look at the other side of the blade.
The handle is not rhino, is of Ordinary Horn.
Kurt

Oliver Pinchot · 31st October 2016, 09:30 PM

Other than the date, what is visible is all religious, including "God's Blessing" and "Hero Ali."

CharlesS · 31st October 2016, 11:49 PM

Kurt, this is, indeed, one of the most lovely kilijs/palas I have seen in some time. I am a real fan of this sword style and type, though some would consider them "late"...if the 19th century can be called that!

You may want to look into the possibility that your horn grip is giraffe. The Ottomans did use this...even rarer than the other...and yours has the correct color to be just that.

Again...magificent!

Battara · 1st November 2016, 03:12 AM

Giraffe? Didn't think of that.......

Kurt · 1st November 2016, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battara

Giraffe? Didn't think of that.......

Battara, you're right,, it's ordinary horn.
The interior is painted red as usual at Horn.
So that it gets a nice color.

Kurt · 1st November 2016, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battara

Giraffe? Didn't think of that.......

Battara, you're right.
It is ordinary horn.
Painted red inside, as always at Horn.
This gives a nice color.

eftihis · 1st November 2016, 02:45 PM

As far as i know, traditionaly they used a paint called "minio" to paint the inside side of the horns, to protect them from insects. THis paint was made using some metal ingredient, and it came out always red. Because the horn is transparentit also gives a nice colour to the outer side of the horn, in the handle that is visible. So maybe protection and also beauty are the reasons for this colour.

A.alnakkas · 2nd November 2016, 09:21 PM

Kurt, send clearer images to my email (on PM) and I will do the translation. Already managed to read most of it, just need clear images to be 100% certain.

31st October 2016, 07:40 PM	#1
Kurt Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 197	Other side the Pala blade. Battara have a look at the other side of the blade. The handle is not rhino, is of Ordinary Horn. Kurt Attached Images

31st October 2016, 09:30 PM	#2
Oliver Pinchot Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 471	Other than the date, what is visible is all religious, including "God's Blessing" and "Hero Ali."

31st October 2016, 11:49 PM	#3
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,854	Kurt, this is, indeed, one of the most lovely kilijs/palas I have seen in some time. I am a real fan of this sword style and type, though some would consider them "late"...if the 19th century can be called that! You may want to look into the possibility that your horn grip is giraffe. The Ottomans did use this...even rarer than the other...and yours has the correct color to be just that. Again...magificent!

1st November 2016, 03:12 AM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,363	Giraffe? Didn't think of that.......

1st November 2016, 02:45 PM	#7
eftihis Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chania Crete Greece Posts: 512	As far as i know, traditionaly they used a paint called "minio" to paint the inside side of the horns, to protect them from insects. THis paint was made using some metal ingredient, and it came out always red. Because the horn is transparentit also gives a nice colour to the outer side of the horn, in the handle that is visible. So maybe protection and also beauty are the reasons for this colour.

2nd November 2016, 09:21 PM	#8
A.alnakkas Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kuwait Posts: 1,340	Kurt, send clearer images to my email (on PM) and I will do the translation. Already managed to read most of it, just need clear images to be 100% certain.