World War2/Japansse Officer swords

asomotif · 26th October 2016, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by kahnjar1

Despite the fact that your swords are apparently not the real deal, they are still attractive, and would look good on the wall as a conversation piece.

Sorry, don't want to put anyone off, but please do not see this as attractice conversation pieces. They are cheap copies.

kahnjar1 · 27th October 2016, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by asomotif

Sorry, don't want to put anyone off, but please do not see this as attractice conversation pieces. They are cheap copies.

OK I have removed the word "attractive" and replaced it with "interesting". To the non collector these would be interesting, copies or not. Our new Member is learning, as we all had to do when we started collecting.................
Stu

donsamadhi · 28th October 2016, 02:15 PM

One more thing about the swords above.

In regard to the same numbers on both. Well, these numbers are identical because they were made in the same Chinese factory of weapon on an order of the Japanese army. Is it possible?And is it possible that Chinesse made them for special people?I mean about the inscriptions.Or maybe it is also another fairy tale.

Henk · 30th October 2016, 02:18 PM

I'm afraid this is a fairy tale as well. Brutaly said, chinese antique is fake. You have to know how to look to distinguish real chinese antique from fakes.

asomotif · 30th October 2016, 11:09 PM

May I suggest this link : http://www.japaneseswordindex.com/repro.htm

But beware, much better fakes / reproductions are being made.
Personally I suggest to check ebay for antique japanese swords.
If the seller is located in China you most probably are looking at a fake or reproduction.

donsamadhi · 30th October 2016, 11:28 PM

I have no more questions except one: where is this type of original swords?

Thank you for your time.

Battara · 31st October 2016, 03:19 AM

I agree with Asomotif. In fact another to watch is anything that says or is from Paul Chen. His company says they make reproductions of Japanese swords with damascus blades, but others have attempted to sell Paul Chen stuff as original and authentic Japanese nihonto.

mross · 1st November 2016, 09:28 PM

All good advice. The current repro's are very hard to distinguish from a photo. Some of the better ones will even stump collectors. The long answer is study so you know what to look for. Yes this is a daunting task, but fun in and of itself. If you want to take a shorter route find a reputable dealer that will stand behind the sale. Expect to pay a large amount of money for a real nihonto. You can get authentic Japanese swords from ww II that are machine made, but "real", however not nihonto. It all depends on what you want. Study.

28th October 2016, 02:15 PM	#3
donsamadhi Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 24	I renew my question.. One more thing about the swords above. In regard to the same numbers on both. Well, these numbers are identical because they were made in the same Chinese factory of weapon on an order of the Japanese army. Is it possible?And is it possible that Chinesse made them for special people?I mean about the inscriptions.Or maybe it is also another fairy tale.

30th October 2016, 02:18 PM	#4
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	I'm afraid this is a fairy tale as well. Brutaly said, chinese antique is fake. You have to know how to look to distinguish real chinese antique from fakes.

30th October 2016, 11:09 PM	#5
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,238	May I suggest this link : http://www.japaneseswordindex.com/repro.htm But beware, much better fakes / reproductions are being made. Personally I suggest to check ebay for antique japanese swords. If the seller is located in China you most probably are looking at a fake or reproduction.

30th October 2016, 11:28 PM	#6
donsamadhi Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 24	I have no more questions except one: where is this type of original swords? Thank you for your time.

31st October 2016, 03:19 AM	#7
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,363	I agree with Asomotif. In fact another to watch is anything that says or is from Paul Chen. His company says they make reproductions of Japanese swords with damascus blades, but others have attempted to sell Paul Chen stuff as original and authentic Japanese nihonto.

1st November 2016, 09:28 PM	#8
mross Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 478	All good advice. The current repro's are very hard to distinguish from a photo. Some of the better ones will even stump collectors. The long answer is study so you know what to look for. Yes this is a daunting task, but fun in and of itself. If you want to take a shorter route find a reputable dealer that will stand behind the sale. Expect to pay a large amount of money for a real nihonto. You can get authentic Japanese swords from ww II that are machine made, but "real", however not nihonto. It all depends on what you want. Study.