TABLE (?) for ID

bhushan_lawate · 23rd October 2016, 07:27 AM

This is a part of a scrapping equipment (kitchen aid) used for cutting/ scrapping veggies and coconuts etc.

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=...a3bdbfbd40ddo0

something like the one on this link. The wooden section and the iron balde used for cutting/scrapping seems to be the missing part.

Thanks,
Bhushan

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 24th October 2016, 06:00 PM

I THINK THAT IS INTERESTING... I NEVER SAW A BOARD ATTACHED TO THE CUTTING SPIKE ARRANGEMENT...HOWEVER, I THINK IT IS TOO SMALL AND DOES NOT HAVE THE ARCH AT THE TOP... I STICK WITH MY REFERENCED SITUATION AS A MASSAGE TABLE.

A. G. Maisey · 24th October 2016, 09:41 PM

Ibrahim, you mention that your opinion is backed by a reference.

My knowledge of massage tables does not extend to this type, so I've been trying to find a picture of one of these Indian massage tables that does not have a bowl, or other provision for oil incorporated into the projecting part at one end.

Could you please oblige by sharing your reference with us?

Thank you.

Rick · 25th October 2016, 03:05 AM

Speaking strictly as an old New England Yankee; that wood looks very much like very old Eastern White Pine.
I grew up in a farmhouse built in 1690 so I've seen more than a bit of it.

Of course it's probably impossible that it is E.W.P., but it sure looks like it.

David · 25th October 2016, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Ibrahiim al Balooshi

I THINK THAT IS INTERESTING... I NEVER SAW A BOARD ATTACHED TO THE CUTTING SPIKE ARRANGEMENT...HOWEVER, I THINK IT IS TOO SMALL AND DOES NOT HAVE THE ARCH AT THE TOP... I STICK WITH MY REFERENCED SITUATION AS A MASSAGE TABLE.

The link to the Ayurvedic message table you made does not really resemble this at all. Besides being too low to the ground the table simply isn't large enough. Yes, it could have been cut down length wise, but not width wise. Unless they made very small tables for little children i will search elsewhere for purpose here.

David · 25th October 2016, 05:31 PM

Here are many examples of such massage tables. I am afraid that this little thing does not have the capacity nor features to serve as such a table.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Ayur...w=1377&bih=787

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 26th October 2016, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by David

Here are many examples of such massage tables. I am afraid that this little thing does not have the capacity nor features to serve as such a table.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Ayur...w=1377&bih=787

It doesn't have the capacity?..correct...because it has had the end sawn off...probably about 2 feet of it. These items often come with a separate bench ..see above.
Note that two strutts have been attached roughly...and 4 small legs...These are not original so the board was a lot less "tall" and simply rested on a raised bench then the board was either hung on a nail or simply rested against a wall to drain.
This is according to my two Indian chaps ( Kerala) on my team.

A. G. Maisey · 26th October 2016, 07:59 AM

Thank you for your response Ibrahiim.
I'm still very puzzled by the lack of any way in which to accommodate the excess oil. All the tables of this type that I can find images of have some provision for oil built into the projection, either a bowl, or a spout or something. I understand your comments in respect of the oil, but that does not address the problem whilst the board is in use.

Perhaps you might be so kind as to ask your Indian informants how the oil problem was managed with this type of table that does not seem to have any provision for oil.

Given, this little table does have a similar overall appearance to a massage table, but when we look at the details, it just doesn't seem to have the same characteristics as a massage table.

I've actually tried to fit my body into a space that is 650mm (25.5") wide. I am not a big man, and although fairly heavy in the upper body, I'm not over weight. A space 650mm wide is insufficient to accommodate my shoulders and arms. Possibly this board was meant as a massage board/table for a child? I doubt that it could be used for many adults.

Is it barely possible that your informants may have been misled by the overall form and overlooked the missing details?

Since you are fortunate enough to have access to people with local knowledge at hand, could you possibly go just one step further and ask if they can explain the significance of the motif carved into the projection? It is this motif that aroused my interest in the first place, because I believe that this motif holds the key to identity of this artefact, rather than the overall form.

Thank you for your attention.

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 26th October 2016, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

Thank you for your response Ibrahiim.
I'm still very puzzled by the lack of any way in which to accommodate the excess oil. All the tables of this type that I can find images of have some provision for oil built into the projection, either a bowl, or a spout or something. I understand your comments in respect of the oil, but that does not address the problem whilst the board is in use.

Perhaps you might be so kind as to ask your Indian informants how the oil problem was managed with this type of table that does not seem to have any provision for oil.

Given, this little table does have a similar overall appearance to a massage table, but when we look at the details, it just doesn't seem to have the same characteristics as a massage table.

I've actually tried to fit my body into a space that is 650mm (25.5") wide. I am not a big man, and although fairly heavy in the upper body, I'm not over weight. A space 650mm wide is insufficient to accommodate my shoulders and arms. Possibly this board was meant as a massage board/table for a child? I doubt that it could be used for many adults.

Is it barely possible that your informants may have been misled by the overall form and overlooked the missing details?

Since you are fortunate enough to have access to people with local knowledge at hand, could you possibly go just one step further and ask if they can explain the significance of the motif carved into the projection? It is this motif that aroused my interest in the first place, because I believe that this motif holds the key to identity of this artefact, rather than the overall form.

Thank you for your attention.

Salaams A. G. Maisey and thank you for the questions...
No one has a clue as to the design. It seems to be essentially Hindu Arch style . In respect of oil I assume it can also be kept in a bowl at the side...although since a large part appears to be cut/broken off it is possible the bowl was incorporated in that part? I have a few pictures ...
Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

26th October 2016, 07:59 AM	#8
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,015	Thank you for your response Ibrahiim. I'm still very puzzled by the lack of any way in which to accommodate the excess oil. All the tables of this type that I can find images of have some provision for oil built into the projection, either a bowl, or a spout or something. I understand your comments in respect of the oil, but that does not address the problem whilst the board is in use. Perhaps you might be so kind as to ask your Indian informants how the oil problem was managed with this type of table that does not seem to have any provision for oil. Given, this little table does have a similar overall appearance to a massage table, but when we look at the details, it just doesn't seem to have the same characteristics as a massage table. I've actually tried to fit my body into a space that is 650mm (25.5") wide. I am not a big man, and although fairly heavy in the upper body, I'm not over weight. A space 650mm wide is insufficient to accommodate my shoulders and arms. Possibly this board was meant as a massage board/table for a child? I doubt that it could be used for many adults. Is it barely possible that your informants may have been misled by the overall form and overlooked the missing details? Since you are fortunate enough to have access to people with local knowledge at hand, could you possibly go just one step further and ask if they can explain the significance of the motif carved into the projection? It is this motif that aroused my interest in the first place, because I believe that this motif holds the key to identity of this artefact, rather than the overall form. Thank you for your attention. Last edited by A. G. Maisey; 26th October 2016 at 08:10 AM.

23rd October 2016, 07:27 AM	#1
bhushan_lawate Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: India Posts: 77	This is a part of a scrapping equipment (kitchen aid) used for cutting/ scrapping veggies and coconuts etc. http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=...a3bdbfbd40ddo0 something like the one on this link. The wooden section and the iron balde used for cutting/scrapping seems to be the missing part. Thanks, Bhushan

24th October 2016, 06:00 PM	#2
Ibrahiim al Balooshi Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Buraimi Oman, on the border with the UAE Posts: 4,408	I THINK THAT IS INTERESTING... I NEVER SAW A BOARD ATTACHED TO THE CUTTING SPIKE ARRANGEMENT...HOWEVER, I THINK IT IS TOO SMALL AND DOES NOT HAVE THE ARCH AT THE TOP... I STICK WITH MY REFERENCED SITUATION AS A MASSAGE TABLE.

24th October 2016, 09:41 PM	#3
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,015	Ibrahim, you mention that your opinion is backed by a reference. My knowledge of massage tables does not extend to this type, so I've been trying to find a picture of one of these Indian massage tables that does not have a bowl, or other provision for oil incorporated into the projecting part at one end. Could you please oblige by sharing your reference with us? Thank you.

25th October 2016, 03:05 AM	#4
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,339	Speaking strictly as an old New England Yankee; that wood looks very much like very old Eastern White Pine. I grew up in a farmhouse built in 1690 so I've seen more than a bit of it. Of course it's probably impossible that it is E.W.P., but it sure looks like it.

25th October 2016, 05:31 PM	#6
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,218	Here are many examples of such massage tables. I am afraid that this little thing does not have the capacity nor features to serve as such a table. https://www.google.com/search?q=Ayur...w=1377&bih=787