A MUSKETOON FOR COMMENT

corrado26 · 3rd October 2016, 09:23 AM

A very remarkable piece with a never seen decoration. I wonder what purpose this carbine with a rosewood stock must have been made for. Thanks for showing.
corrado26

BANDOOK · 3rd October 2016, 09:34 AM

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BANDOOK · 3rd October 2016, 01:14 PM

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corrado26 · 3rd October 2016, 03:18 PM

Sorry for answering once more and not beeing Kubur or Rick:

I think that this mousketoon has no connections to English weapons at all and has been made in India. Neither the stock nor the barrel and the mountings have a conformity to British firearms during the flintlock aera.
corrado26

Kubur · 3rd October 2016, 04:27 PM

Hi,
It's too far from Kubur's expertise.
Kubur stays on the Mediterranean shores...

Jim McDougall · 3rd October 2016, 04:47 PM

I think those markings may be associated with EIC systems of issue or mfg. If anyone has access to David Hardings "Small Arms of the East India Co." I think there is data there. The India link seems well placed.

BANDOOK · 4th October 2016, 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim McDougall

I think those markings may be associated with EIC systems of issue or mfg. If anyone has access to David Hardings "Small Arms of the East India Co." I think there is data there. The India link seems well placed.

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BANDOOK · 4th October 2016, 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kubur

Hi,
It's too far from Kubur's expertise.
Kubur stays on the Mediterranean shores...

HI KUBUR WELL SOME TIMES U DRIFT ACROSS TO THE INDIAN OCEAN SO I TRIED MY LUCK,CHEERS

BANDOOK · 4th October 2016, 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by corrado26

Sorry for answering once more and not beeing Kubur or Rick:

I think that this mousketoon has no connections to English weapons at all and has been made in India. Neither the stock nor the barrel and the mountings have a conformity to British firearms during the flintlock aera.
corrado26

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rickystl · 4th October 2016, 04:41 PM

Hi Bandook.

I think Corrado and Jim are close to the mark here. The gold wash decoration and barrel profile look very Indian to me. This gun looks like a styling exercise by the maker/owner. Curious all the iron parts are decorated - except the butt plate. There is some slight English styling, but for the most part a custom design. Very interesting gun and worthy of further research. Speaking of which, I wish I could find a copy of Hardings book. Anyone have one for sale ? LOL

Rick

BANDOOK · 6th October 2016, 11:26 AM

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Ian · 7th October 2016, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by rickystl

Hi Bandook.

...I wish I could find a copy of Hardings book. Anyone have one for sale ? ...

Rick

Rick,

You can find copies by searching on www.abebooks.com but these are fairly expensive. There were four volumes.

Ian.

3rd October 2016, 09:34 AM	#2
BANDOOK Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: AUCKLAND,NEW ZEALAND Posts: 627	THANKS CORRADO SOME MORE PICTURES HERE AS THE I HAVE CROPPED THE PICTURES SO I COULD FIT IN TO THE FILES,CHEERS Attached Images

3rd October 2016, 09:23 AM	#1
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,240	A very remarkable piece with a never seen decoration. I wonder what purpose this carbine with a rosewood stock must have been made for. Thanks for showing. corrado26

3rd October 2016, 01:14 PM	#3
BANDOOK Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: AUCKLAND,NEW ZEALAND Posts: 627	KUBUR AND RICK WOULD LIKE YPOUR COMMENTS,CHEERS

3rd October 2016, 03:18 PM	#4
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,240	Sorry for answering once more and not beeing Kubur or Rick: I think that this mousketoon has no connections to English weapons at all and has been made in India. Neither the stock nor the barrel and the mountings have a conformity to British firearms during the flintlock aera. corrado26

3rd October 2016, 04:27 PM	#5
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	Hi, It's too far from Kubur's expertise. Kubur stays on the Mediterranean shores...

3rd October 2016, 04:47 PM	#6
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,668	I think those markings may be associated with EIC systems of issue or mfg. If anyone has access to David Hardings "Small Arms of the East India Co." I think there is data there. The India link seems well placed.

4th October 2016, 04:41 PM	#10
rickystl Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO area. Posts: 1,633	Hi Bandook. I think Corrado and Jim are close to the mark here. The gold wash decoration and barrel profile look very Indian to me. This gun looks like a styling exercise by the maker/owner. Curious all the iron parts are decorated - except the butt plate. There is some slight English styling, but for the most part a custom design. Very interesting gun and worthy of further research. Speaking of which, I wish I could find a copy of Hardings book. Anyone have one for sale ? LOL Rick

6th October 2016, 11:26 AM	#11
BANDOOK Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: AUCKLAND,NEW ZEALAND Posts: 627	THANKS FOR YOUR COMMENTS RICK,AM SURE MORE MEMBERS WILL COMMENT AND MORE RESEARCH COULD BE DONE FOR THIS GUN,KIND REGARDS RAJESH