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22nd September 2016, 06:27 AM
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Great information Jim, We had a real go at Mashin Khana where at http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=21677 it can be seen in the sketch of one of the Kabul works the write up in miniscule print under says Martini Henry and solid brass drawn cartridges were made there... Mashin Khana was an attempt to finance a state industrial revolution...it failed! They also made Bayonets and such was the fervour to replicate foreign weapons that they scooped up other items of war including their own long daggers and stamped them for good measure... Indeed stamping everything with the Mashin Khana stamp seemed to a sort of sport... to the very detriment of skilled artesans who were sucked into the system thereby forgetting their age old crafts in favour of mechanical automation and the dreaded Mashin Khana. Bayonets for MH were turned out though quality was suspect ..See the bayonets at reference also.
I am checking for other weapons made there also...and I see at https://www.google.com/search?q=mash...utf-8&oe=utf-8 pictures of rifles and stamps often with the Kabul Jangalak factory but no Enfield marks...just MH. We are all aware of the home made versions made in Afghanistan with all sorts of spelling mistakes but I cannot find Enfields having been made in the Mashin Khana. factories.. Regarding Enfield Sword Blades please see http://antiqueswordsforsale.com/brit...t-issue-marks/ for some of the marks applied throughout the 19th C. Last edited by Ibrahiim al Balooshi; 22nd September 2016 at 07:19 AM. |
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22nd September 2016, 11:57 AM
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Interesting pulwar, Marcus
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22nd September 2016, 12:03 PM
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I posted in Europeanin the hopes that a member of that forum might recognize the blade type and identify the original sword.
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22nd September 2016, 12:08 PM
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Let's place it in both sections, then
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22nd September 2016, 04:13 PM
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Good call Fernando. I was surprised to see this in European but well understand Marcus' reasoning which was well placed in that perspective.
As far as I have known, it is most unusual to see these blades, which included M1853, M1885 and M1890 British cavalry swords , used in ethnographic edged weapons intact. There may have been cut down examples however, but unclear on cases offhand. Excellent input Ibrahiim, and I agree, the Martini-Henry was most likely but Sniders (actually Enfield muskets converted to breech load with Snider patent) were also produced. |
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22nd September 2016, 04:43 PM
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I believe this was made entirely in England:
http://www.oriental-arms.co.il/item.php?id=2823 |
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22nd September 2016, 06:31 PM
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sorry
I don't see the relationship.
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23rd September 2016, 02:47 AM
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Robert Mole & Sons of Birmingham was a well known supplier of blades and these kinds of fully made tulwars for native Indian regiments. They were subcontractors for Wilkinson along with at least one or more others, I believe it was J Bourne & Son. Enfield was a military small arms factory and did not produce swords in this manner for colonial purposes. The paluoar is a traditional sword in Afghanistan but was not produced in the manner of these tulwars and colonial sabres for India by makers and suppliers in England. This is a hilt FROM Afghan maker joined with a British cavalry blade from an Enfield produced sword. |
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