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Old 19th September 2016, 08:03 PM   #1
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Those gourds are for powdered tobacco.
Flasks used in the Central Asian Khanates tended to be either Persian work or locally made in Persian style; steel, wood, horn, hide are the commonest materials. There is a distinctive group which are of generally Persian form, but of brass with silver appliques. They are not common.
Thank you very much Oliver, you answered both questions. The shape is very Caucasian too and the metal and decorations are very Persian. Very interesting thank you!
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Old 19th September 2016, 09:25 PM   #2
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Is this a reasonable example?
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Old 19th September 2016, 11:07 PM   #3
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Dear Oliver,
Can I ask you for this one?
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Old 20th September 2016, 05:29 AM   #4
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Salaam ya Ibrahiim,

We are looking at Persian forms which were adopted by many cultures, including the Ottomans, Central Asian and Caucasian groups.
In order to attribute it, it would be necessary to see closeups of the engraving on the silver mounts. That said, it's probably Caucasian, nice example.
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Old 20th September 2016, 05:38 AM   #5
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This second flask is certainly Central Asian, probably Afghan work.
The technique of piercing the mounts and filling them with pitch or sealing wax and then polishing them flat is a very old one which originates in Persian shops. However, we recognize this work primarily in Afghanistan in the 19th century; it is a technique which fell out of fashion in Persia at some point, but remained very popular in Central Asia.
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Salaam ya Ibrahiim,

We are looking at Persian forms which were adopted by many cultures, including the Ottomans, Central Asian and Caucasian groups.
In order to attribute it, it would be necessary to see closeups of the engraving on the silver mounts. That said, it's probably Caucasian, nice example.
Salaams Oliver; Thanks very much...
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Old 23rd September 2016, 05:28 PM   #7
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Salaams Oliver; Thanks very much...
Yes thank you very much Oliver, very useful
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