MOST DESIRED WAR CLUBS MID AND SOUTH AMERICA

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WOW! THAT'S QUITE A SELECTION AND SEVERAL FORMS I AM NOT FAMILIAR WITH. PERHAPS THE COLLECTOR WILL SEE IT AND PROVIDE US WITH SOME INFORMATION. UNTIL THEN I WILL JUST MUDDLE ALONG WITH THIS REFERENCE AS BEST AS I CAN. FILL FREE TO ADD ANYTHING YOU HAVE ALONG THE WAY.

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SHIPIBO-CONIBO TRIBE CLUBS. IN THE PAST THEY WERE TWO RELATED TRIBES THE SHIPIBO LIVING IN THE RAIN FOREST AND HUNTING AND THE CONIBO LIVING NEAR WATER AND FISHING. THE TWO TRIBES ARE COMBINED TODAY AND KNOWN BY BOTH NAMES. THERE IS A LARGE NUMBER AROUND IQUITOS PERU AND ALONG THE UCAYALI RIVER. SOME GROUPS HAVE RANGED FROM BRAZIL TO ECUADOR AS WELL. THE WOMEN DO THE COMPLICATED DESIGNS WHICH REPRESENT SEVERAL BASIC PATTERNS THE SPIRIT OF THE RAIN FOREST, GREAT SERPENT (ANACONDA)AND SPIRITUAL MATTERS. THE DESIGNS ARE GEOMETRIC BUT CAN BE CHANTED OR WHISTLED AS MUSIC AS WELL. THE CLUBS OFTEN HAVE SUCH A DESIGN ON THE BLADE. I READ THAT THE MAN CHOOSES THE DESIGN HE WANTS AND THE WOMEN PUT THE DESIGN ON THE CLUB. A INTERESTING TRIBE WITH A LONG HISTORY.
#1. THRU #5. A OLD SHIPIBO CLUB GOOD HEAVY HARD WOOD WITH NO DESIGN ON BLADE.
#6. & #7. CIRCA 1960, SHIPIBO/ CLUB WITH DESIGNS ON BOTH SIDES OF BLADE. 45.5 INCHES LONG, 5.5 IN. WIDE AT TIP. UCAYALI RIVER AREA PERU. LIGHT WEIGHT SOFT WOOD NATURAL FIBER AND PIGMENTS.
#8., #9. & #10. SMALLER MORE MODERN FORM SHIPIBO CLUB. 43 CM. X 11 CM. WITH COLORFUL CORD WRAP CIRCA 1970 SAID TO BE FROM GUYANA VERY WELL MADE.
#11. SHIPIBO CLUB CIRCA 1970 ,PERU 21 INCH. LONG
#12. SHIPIBO MEN IN TRADITIONAL CEREMONIAL ATTIRE WITH SMALLER CLUBS.

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In this thread are shown a lot of very nice Amazon clubs: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ht=amazon+club

But maybe Tim will show us all his Amazon clubs in one picture.

Regards,
Detlef

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#1. GOOD OLD EXAMPLE OF SHIPIBO CLUB FULL SIZE HEAVY HARD WOOD.
#2. OLD EXAMPLE 141 X 11 X 3 CM. CIRCA 1930, UCAYALI RIVER PERU, CALLED HUINO CLUB. SHIPIBO /KOMBO TRIBE. ALSO SPELLED CONIBO
#3. SHIPIBO SOME OF THE MANY PATTERNS USED.
#4.SHIPIBO GODS EYE, THE SHARP SPEAR LIKE POINT IS STUCK IN THE GROUND OUTSIDE A HUT WHERE A NEWBORN BABY OR SICK PERSON IS TO KEEP OUT EVIL SPIRITS AND TO WARN PEOPLE NOT TO ENTER.
#5. TWO GODS EYE AND TWO BOWS WITH ARROWS CIRCA MID TO LATE
1960'S
#6. CLOSEUP OF TWO BOWS.
#7. & #8. SHIPIBOW SPEAR
#9. SHIPIBOW CANOE PADDLE
#10. SHIPIBOW POT MAKING WITH CLAY STIRRER IN CLAY
#11. SHIPIBOW DRAWING

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HERE ARE THREE MORE PICTURES OF THE SHIPIBO TRIBE. PICTURE A CEREMONY WITH SHAMAN AND CLUBS AND TWO PICTURES OF DIFFERENT TRIBAL PATTERNS. ##1. SHAMAN'S CEREMONY #2. & #3. SHIPIBO DESIGNS

I MISSED A FEW PICTURES OF MEXICO SO WILL ADD THEM HERE.
#4. DRAWING OF AZTEC WARRIOR AND WEAPONS
#5. MODERN MACUAHUITL WITH ORANGE GLASS BLADES
#6., #7. & #8. INTERESTING DRAWINGS FROM OLD MEXICAN POST CARDS
#9.REPLICA OF OLD MISSISSIPPIAN SHARK TOOTH CLUB, SIMILAR IDEA LIKE MACUAHUITL

I HAVE ONLY FOUND DRAWINGS OF THE SOUTH AMERICAN ARMOR BUT HAVE FOUND SOME ARMOR FROM THE NORTH WEST COAST OF NORTH AMERICA THAT MAY HAVE SOME SIMILARITY TO WHAT WAS USED IN MID. AND SOUTH AMERICA.
#10. TLINGIT MAN IN WOODEN ARMOR VISOR NO HELMET.
#11. TLINGIT WOODEN HELMET AND VISOR, THE VISOR PROTECTS THE NECK THE HELMET PROTECTS THE SKULL.
#12. PRINT OF N.W. COAST ITEMS INCLUDING ARMOR.

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A FEW MORE AND A BIT OF CONJECTURE.
#1. A MODERN KILLER WHALE HELMET AND A WAR CLUB.

WARNING CONJECTURE AHEAD.

#2 & #3. TWO KACHINAS THAT SORT OF REMIND ME OF THE TWO PIECE ARMOR PICTURED ABOVE WITH THE NECK PROTECTION AND THE HELMET. I LIKE KACHINAS BUT KNOW VERY LITTLE ABOUT THEM SO THIS IS JUST AN OBSERVATION NO OFFENSE MEANT TO THE TRIBAL BELIEFS AND TRADITIONS.

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#. 1. SHIPIBO CLUB AND TWO PADDLES
#2. MACUATHUITL 24 IN. MADE FROM A SWORDFISH BILL.
#3., #4., #5. & #6. MACUATHUITL 39 INCHES DETAIL
#7. MEXICO CIRCA 1500 DRAWING FROM AN OLD BOOK

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THE SHIPIBO/CONIBO TRIBES DO HAVE SOME VARIATIONS IN THEIR CLUBS PERHAPS REGIONAL OR VARIATIONS OVER TIME.
#1. THRU #5. SAID TO BE CONIBO CLUBS CIRCA 1900'S RANGING IN SIZE FROM 140 TO 135 CM. LONG AND 14 TO 18.5 CM WIDE THERE IS SOME DIFFERENCE I THE TIP FROM THE SHIPIBO FORM AND ONE PICTURE IS OF AN UNFINISHED CLUB. THE GRIP AREA IS NOT PICTURED WELL ENOUGH TO SEE IF THERE IS ANY VARIATION THERE. ONE EXAMPLE IS AF A VERY ORNATE FORM LIKELY TO SHOW PRESTIGE IN THE TRIBE AND FOR CEREMONY.
#6. & #7. SHIPIBO, PART OF THE CHAMA CULTURE EARLY 1900'S PERU,130 X 11.5 X 3 CM. AND 152 X 15 X 3 CM.
#8. WAS IDENTIFIED AS SHETEBO TRIBE, FROM THE BAJO UCAYALI RIVER, PERU, 1900'S, 131 X 17.5 X 2.5 CM. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A DIFFERENT GROUP OR A DIFFERENT SPELLING DUE TO REGION AND TIME.