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Old 5th September 2016, 10:04 AM   #1
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Donny, I thank you for asking me for an opinion, but I am very sorry, I am unable to form any opinion on the fine details of a keris from a photo.

Moreover, even if I were to have one of these keris in my hand, and I could form an opinion, I would only whisper that opinion to the maker , were he to ask me.

Frankly, I think it is very presumptuous of anybody who is unable to weld, forge and carve a keris to pass judgement on the work of any maker.

Only a maker is fit to judge the skill of another maker.

I accept that there are those who will disagree with me. They are entitled to their opinions.
truly a masterpiece answer, Mr Maisey
a code of honor amongst those who truly and fully understand the world of tosan aji
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Old 5th September 2016, 10:18 AM   #2
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Now this is one of the keris who entered as contestant of the exhibition, courtesy of Donny Yonatan (not me), and posted here under his permission

This is as we all know, a Balinese keris, with modern pamor, named by the owner as "kembang separung" - or a field full of wildflowers

the inspiration of the pamor itself come from stone walls, many different stones merged into one, basically the philosophy of Indonesia, Bhinneka Tunggal Ika - many different cultures merged into one Indonesia

technique used for making the pamor is "tambal" technique and each of the pamor are (supposedly) different. There are singkir, batu lapak, kupu tarung, to wos wutah pamor condensed into one keris

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Old 5th September 2016, 10:21 AM   #3
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Default more kembang separung keris

more pics means more details !!
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Old 5th September 2016, 10:30 AM   #4
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This is another keris, courtesy of Donny Yonatan, called Kanjeng Jiwana

the inspiration of the pamor is of course wood burl, meaning we must be like plants, the first to grow and the first to sacrifice so other living being may inhabit an area

basically humility and perseverance

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Old 5th September 2016, 12:39 PM   #5
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The tambal pamor work is amazing. Thank you for sharing the photos Satsujinken.
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Old 5th September 2016, 03:51 PM   #6
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Thank you Satsujinken for all the pictures and this interesting thread! But like David and some others I have problems to accept some of very outlandish looking pieces as keris.

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Old 5th September 2016, 04:00 PM   #7
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The tambal pamor work is amazing. Thank you for sharing the photos Satsujinken.
Rasdan, were you referring to the keris in post #32?
It is beautiful, btw, but at the risk of displaying my ignorance it doesn't look like what i understand as pamor tambal.
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Old 5th September 2016, 10:43 PM   #8
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I thought that was tambal when I first looked at it, and I guess, in a way, it is tambal, but its a new approach, I think.

From what I can see and guess, it looks as if the pamor has been welded normally, but then the separating lines have been cut into the pamor and filled with strips of black material, probably steel, because of the lower weld heat required.

The forging has then been returned to the forge and another couple of weld heats put into it to fix the separating strips in place.

Of course, I'd need to examine this blade in the hand to confirm my guess, but however it was done, the effect is a new initiative.

I've said it before:- these blokes are amongst the world's best pattern welders. Maybe the best of them are the world's best pattern welders.
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Rasdan, were you referring to the keris in post #32?
It is beautiful, btw, but at the risk of displaying my ignorance it doesn't look like what i understand as pamor tambal.
Hello David,
Rasdan and Alan are referring to the keris in posts #30 and 31 I think.
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