Ivory or bone ?

Hotspur · 29th August 2016, 03:45 AM

Uhuh

Silver Shield · 29th August 2016, 04:50 AM

It is put in a somewhat unconcise manner , but no frozen Mastodon flesh or Woolly Mammoths had been eatable since the first Winter in which it froze or there about , but in the field of Vertebrate Paleontology it has been know and published since about 1900 that the best preserved specimens the flesh was "jello" like , even the dogs would not eat it . All these tales where untrue , and only belongs in Fables and Children's Books, much like Snakes guarding the pepper plants in India . I mean try putting a beef roast in the freezer for a year , take out and defrost almost all the way and freeze for another year ect.. for 8,000 to 10,000 years . Also the Ivory of the Mammoth was harvested and used , their tusks where Curved but large in size and where used too , not just Mastodon, I think there was much more Mammoth than Mastodon, you hear every now and again about a new find in Siberia , and its always a Mammoth . Still in the early 1900s at least 100s of tonnes came out of Siberia every year . Seems to be a writers habit of publishing second hand information and perpetuation of Folk Tales .Ive handled some of these tusks my self , incredible condition, and I have worked with Fossil Ivory and its as good as Recent stock , but tends to be a light tan usually .

Hotspur · 31st August 2016, 02:00 AM

Well, the crux of the published article above was the sourcing of old ivory from Siberia. Exclude all the folk tales and what is left? Most I think equate mastadon with mammoth and I think you are spot on about authors repeating other published work. Still, we have an old ivory trade in the 18th and 19th century. I posted the page mostly for the influence of trade due to the treaty.

Cheers

GC

29th August 2016, 03:45 AM	#1
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29th August 2016, 04:50 AM	#2
Silver Shield Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Phoenix Arizona USA Posts: 32	Really? It is put in a somewhat unconcise manner , but no frozen Mastodon flesh or Woolly Mammoths had been eatable since the first Winter in which it froze or there about , but in the field of Vertebrate Paleontology it has been know and published since about 1900 that the best preserved specimens the flesh was "jello" like , even the dogs would not eat it . All these tales where untrue , and only belongs in Fables and Children's Books, much like Snakes guarding the pepper plants in India . I mean try putting a beef roast in the freezer for a year , take out and defrost almost all the way and freeze for another year ect.. for 8,000 to 10,000 years . Also the Ivory of the Mammoth was harvested and used , their tusks where Curved but large in size and where used too , not just Mastodon, I think there was much more Mammoth than Mastodon, you hear every now and again about a new find in Siberia , and its always a Mammoth . Still in the early 1900s at least 100s of tonnes came out of Siberia every year . Seems to be a writers habit of publishing second hand information and perpetuation of Folk Tales .Ive handled some of these tusks my self , incredible condition, and I have worked with Fossil Ivory and its as good as Recent stock , but tends to be a light tan usually .

31st August 2016, 02:00 AM	#3
Hotspur Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Nipmuc USA Posts: 508	Well, the crux of the published article above was the sourcing of old ivory from Siberia. Exclude all the folk tales and what is left? Most I think equate mastadon with mammoth and I think you are spot on about authors repeating other published work. Still, we have an old ivory trade in the 18th and 19th century. I posted the page mostly for the influence of trade due to the treaty. Cheers GC