what type of warangka of this kris

A. G. Maisey · 21st July 2016, 02:49 AM

OK Gavin, lose two or gain two.

ferrylaki · 21st July 2016, 06:10 AM

i've never seen a keris panjang having tikel alis and sogokan like this before.
i'm fascinated and curious. this is a new experience for me

Jean · 21st July 2016, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ferrylaki

i've never seen a keris panjang having tikel alis and sogokan like this before.
i'm fascinated and curious. this is a new experience for me

Yeah, this keris panjang is different from the standard pieces from Bangkinang/ Riau from the blade (sogokan and tikel alis), the shape of the sampir (not dua hari bulan), the gandar with wide silver rings and a flat tip?, and the shape of the tapak kuda hilt. I visited Bukittinggi (Minang country) 20 years ago and remember to have seen some keris panjang with similar features (gandar with silver rings especially) so it may be correct to attribute the origin of this keris to this region.
Loyah, could you please tell us which is the area of origin of your ancestor?
Regards

loyah · 21st July 2016, 03:48 PM

Hi all, thanks for the input

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Originally Posted by Jean

Loyah, could you please tell us which is the area of origin of your ancestor?

That is my intention. I'm from Negri Sembilan border to Malacca. In the 1700~1800 settlers from Minangkabau came to Negri Sembilan .

And There is also a saying " beraja ke Johor, bertali ke Siak dan bertuan ke Minangkabau". roughly means ~ the Kingdom is to Johore , family/ ties to Siak and to Lord to Minangkabau" (not a good English translation I think).

In one version the ancestors are from Johore, but the kris points otherwise.
The keris is family heirloom kept by a distant family member. Malays are quite protective of their family heirloom. that's why I have very limited access to the item. Need some kind of foundation to persuade them to explore family history.

Regards

Jean · 21st July 2016, 08:03 PM

Loyah,
Thank you for the interesting family history. A Malaysian origin also crossed my mind for this keris, may be some of our Malaysian members could comment on it?

Regards

Gavin Nugent · 21st July 2016, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

OK Gavin, lose two or gain two.

Is safe Alan, it is an old display :-)

21st July 2016, 02:49 AM	#1
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,034	OK Gavin, lose two or gain two.

21st July 2016, 06:10 AM	#2
ferrylaki Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 285	i've never seen a keris panjang having tikel alis and sogokan like this before. i'm fascinated and curious. this is a new experience for me

21st July 2016, 08:03 PM	#5
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	Loyah, Thank you for the interesting family history. A Malaysian origin also crossed my mind for this keris, may be some of our Malaysian members could comment on it? Regards