“Ring Grip” Kukris, A Fresh Perspective.

[sirupate]

mrcjgscott on the article “Ring Grip” Kukris, A Fresh Perspective you have used pictures of mine without permission, please remove them from here, IKRHS and on Blade Forums, regards Simon

[sirupate]

For other evidence regarding Ring Handled kukri please go to the links blow
Gurkha Museum Visit Feb 2016
Clarrification Mess Orderly kukri
Major-General Mike Callan’s sent details of his kukri, and they are as follows;
“I have dug out my old issue kukri from the garden shed. It has been used as a utility tool in the garden, just as a Gurkha would. (You know of course that the common belief that kukris can only be drawn to shed blood is complete nonsense). Mine is now very battered and rusty, but after reading your notes I took a closer look at it. The first thing is that it has no maker's mark, and seems to differ from the ones you described.
The dimensions are: Length from tip of blade to tip of handle - 42 cm. From the tip of blade to the start of the angle (approx. 15 degrees) on back of blade - 19.5 cm, and from there to the join at handle - 12.5 cm. Depth of blade at widest part - 5.3 cm, and thickness of blade at back before it tapers down towards the point - 7 mm.
The hardwood handle is 10.5 cm long, with a steel plate on the end, and has two steel bands round (to prevent splitting) and is secured to the blade by *two rivets. The center of the handle is carved to provide the grip. It is a nicely balanced weapon with a good "feel”. The weight is 548 gms.”
Since the correspondence Major-General Mike Callan kindly sent me down his kukri so I could handle it and document it for myself. It is very similar to one in the GM, which has a different Kaudi and brass rings and butt plate.

[sirupate]

I then asked the Curator about the kukri worn by the 3 GR Mess Orderly in WW2, as a follow up to the query of the 10 GR Orderlies in 1948.
Me; "So would it be fairly safe to say that the 3 GR Orderly (WW2) in the attached picture is also wearing an issued kukri?

Kind regards Simon"

Curator; "Probably!"
(It must be noted that the GM doesn't have the records of 3GR, they are in India)
Probably = almost certainly; as far as one knows or can tell.

Also keep in mind what Lt. Col. Cross said; "mess NCOs and mess orderlies, were sent from rifle companies for a spell - quite how long I can't remember"

[Gavin Nugent]

Originally Posted by sirupate

mrcjgscott on the article “Ring Grip” Kukris, A Fresh Perspective you have used pictures of mine without permission, please remove them from here, IKRHS and on Blade Forums, regards Simon

Simon,

With respect, from previous correspondence, the above remark must be in jest as you have previously advised that anyone using any of your images or information is, I quote "is free to take it and use it". Perhaps this is where any misunderstanding may lay?


Gavin

[mrcjgscott]

Originally Posted by sirupate

mrcjgscott on the article “Ring Grip” Kukris, A Fresh Perspective you have used pictures of mine without permission

Simon Hengle,

Exactly which images are you alleging that you hold copyright to?

Every image used has been published on this forum previously, and is therefore open to debate.

You have already published images from the Gurkha Museum without their permission, so I would suggest you are very careful about making any accusations against me.

You have also attributed statements to the Curator which he has denied making. They are rather dismayed at being "quoted" and by your conduct in general.

It would also seem that you have copied and pasted the same old material here from old threads. If you had actually stopped and read my article, you would see that each and every point you have raised has been refuted, using evidence, truth, and common sense.

I see no need for further interaction, my article represents my views, and this illustrious forum is no place for verbal brawling.

I bid you good day, and wish you every success with your future research.

[sirupate]

Unfortunately for you I have the emails with the correspondence
PS from IKRHS, my wife decided to intervene regarding Major General Mike Callan
Leanne Hengle Hello, as if it's not obvious from my surname..... I am Simon Hengle's wife. I gather that people on here and in the past on other forums are questioning the authenticity that Major General Mike Callan sent his WW2 ring handled Kukri to Simon.
I can verify that this was received along with the compliment slip written by Mike to Simon. I also sent back the said same Kukri to Major General Mike Callan. Simon has been in contact with Mike on several occasions in recent years and I have also had the pleasure of speaking with him.
Before anyone tries to insinuate this is Simon writing under my FB profile, you are welcome to call me and check!!!

[mrcjgscott]

Originally Posted by sirupate

Unfortunately for you I have the emails with the correspondence

I am not too concerned with an email which say's "Probably"!!

I also hope your email contain's permission to use the photographs you took?

No apologies for misrepresenting the photographs you published?

You really have no shame, do you?

[mrcjgscott]

Originally Posted by sirupate

PS from IKRHS, my wife decided to intervene regarding Major General Mike Callan
Leanne Hengle Hello, as if it's not obvious from my surname..... I am Simon Hengle's wife. I gather that people on here and in the past on other forums are questioning the authenticity that Major General Mike Callan sent his WW2 ring handled Kukri to Simon.
I can verify that this was received along with the compliment slip written by Mike to Simon. I also sent back the said same Kukri to Major General Mike Callan. Simon has been in contact with Mike on several occasions in recent years and I have also had the pleasure of speaking with him.
Before anyone tries to insinuate this is Simon writing under my FB profile, you are welcome to call me and check!!!

Unfortunately Simon Hengle, you do have previous form when it comes to pretending to be other people on internet forums, don't you?


Simon is banned from bladeforums for using 3 different identities on the same day to make it look like people agreed with his posts, see post 9 on this banning thread:


http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/sh...te#post3191806


For those interested, this link will give you more idea about the circumstances:


http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/sh...51#post3191851


He was then banned again:

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/sh...te#post8229184


You have also been banned from Sword Forum International, and www.britishblades.com for conduct unbecoming.

You see why nobody can take you or your "research" seriously, or believe anything you type?

As I said, shameful behaviour.

[sirupate]

Chris, no misrepresentation of the pictures at all, and I don't have so called 'previous' lol!! and to insinuate I pretended to be my wife is laughable, and I think to try and discredit Major General Mike Callan is shameful, next you will be telling me that alloy handles kukri weren't issued!

[mrcjgscott]

Originally Posted by sirupate

Chris, no misrepresentation of the pictures at all, and I don't have so called 'previous' lol!! and to insinuate I pretended to be my wife is laughable, and I think to try and discredit Major General Mike Callan is shameful, next you will be telling me that alloy handles kukri weren't issued!

How can there be no misrepresentation when the pictures clearly do not show what you claim them to?

Are you saying you were not banned for creating fake profiles in order to back up your own arguments? The evidence is there on the internet for all to see!

Nobody has attempted to discredit Major General Callan, but rather the conduit (I.E. You!) used to transcribe his words. His account must be viewed with scepticism owing to the vast amount of time elapsed between the giving of the account, and the event described. Pretty basic stuff Simon!

That's it from me, I have said all I need to say. I shall let you have the last word, as people like you always seem to need it!

[sirupate]

Regarding the so called fake profiles, I believe you are talking about that time when on Blade forums that there was a debate, in which I two other friends and and another individual were having a debate, Bish and Nigel were at my house using my computer at that time, hence the same IP address, which has previously been explained.
As to the information supplied with the pictures that information is 100% correct.
Regarding the transcript about Major General Mike Callan, the correspondence shows his mind was all there, and not full of waffle, like your article