A less than common Kampilan

Battara · 22nd June 2016, 09:48 PM

Gustav, I had to look closely and found other parts burled as well and not just the repairs. Not that easy to see but they are there.

kai · 23rd June 2016, 01:50 AM

Thanks Albert for letting me examine this and other beauties personally!

I can't really remember the wood of this hilt but I do remember that the hilt and the repair are extremely close. Thus, I'd lean towards all pieces being banati albeit of different qualities.

Regards,
Kai

kino · 23rd June 2016, 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by kai

Thanks Albert for letting me examine this and other beauties personally!

I can't really remember the wood of this hilt but I do remember that the hilt and the repair are extremely close. Thus, I'd lean towards all pieces being banati albeit of different qualities.

Regards,
Kai

It was my pleasure Kai.i hope you've reverted back to your sleeping schedule. Too bad our visit with Miguel Diaz was short.

Miguel Diaz being in agreement that the wood is Luaun, perhaps only because of my initial suggestion that it was, my persuasive nature

and of course his graciousness of not correcting me.

Battara · 23rd June 2016, 01:25 PM

Kai, the Ilanum/Iranun were great sea farers, traveling almost everywhere. Not surprising that their influence or even out posts were in several places at one time.

kai · 23rd June 2016, 06:06 PM

Hello Jose,

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Kai, the Ilanum/Iranun were great sea farers, traveling almost everywhere. Not surprising that their influence or even out posts were in several places at one time.

I'm not questioning that.

However, what is the reasoning for declaring this type as Ilanum rather than a more generic Moro style? From museum and other reasonably provenanced pieces, I don't see any clear association that would suggest so.

Best wishes,
Kai

Battara · 23rd June 2016, 07:10 PM

I base this on what research I have seen, plus the fact that unless there was trade, Maranao and Maguindanao kampilans seem to have "eyes" and the "jaws" are longer and, as you say, not as "blocky".

If you find good research to the contrary, please post it for our learning.

Dayaktribe · 28th April 2017, 08:07 AM

What a nice kampilan that i want to have in my collections. Congratulations!

22nd June 2016, 09:48 PM	#1
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	Gustav, I had to look closely and found other parts burled as well and not just the repairs. Not that easy to see but they are there.

23rd June 2016, 01:50 AM	#2
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,255	Thanks Albert for letting me examine this and other beauties personally! I can't really remember the wood of this hilt but I do remember that the hilt and the repair are extremely close. Thus, I'd lean towards all pieces being banati albeit of different qualities. Regards, Kai

23rd June 2016, 01:25 PM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	Kai, the Ilanum/Iranun were great sea farers, traveling almost everywhere. Not surprising that their influence or even out posts were in several places at one time.

23rd June 2016, 07:10 PM	#6
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	I base this on what research I have seen, plus the fact that unless there was trade, Maranao and Maguindanao kampilans seem to have "eyes" and the "jaws" are longer and, as you say, not as "blocky". If you find good research to the contrary, please post it for our learning.

28th April 2017, 08:07 AM	#7
Dayaktribe Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 11	What a nice kampilan that i want to have in my collections. Congratulations!