Chinese (or other country) sai/parrying weapon

[benny.lee]

Originally Posted by estcrh

Benny, when is search using 手叉 there are no images of shoucha / sai....just forks, is there another word? Do you think that either of these are Chinese, these are in my collection.

These two are also China's weapons
Because of this weapon is not a standard equipment, so many of his titles in the civil
Can be called "铁尺"（Iron ruler）（TIE CHI)

[Gavin Nugent]

An image I have on file that was shared elsewhere recently.

Gavin

[Gavin Nugent]

I bought this quite some time ago in a box lot of Tibet and Mongolian knives and trousse and upon playing with it recently, it is a most effective and destructive little item...the question is, is it actually a weapon, i.e; an iron ruler or something else like a sharpening steel?

It is just under 34.5cms long. the grip is rectangular and shaped for fitment in the hand. The "blade" for want of a better word is thicker and broader than the handle and an elliptical cross section and a tapering tip...no sharp edges, just effective blunt force trauma.
POB is at the half way mark, which is putting all the weight forward but little to no effort in the hand.

Gavin

[josh stout]

Does it have a hairpin lamination? It looks like it has something. How thick is it? It certainly looks like it could be a weapon but I have not seen anything like it.

[Gavin Nugent]

Originally Posted by josh stout

Does it have a hairpin lamination? It looks like it has something. How thick is it? It certainly looks like it could be a weapon but I have not seen anything like it.

Hi Josh,

No hairpin lamination, but I too see activity within the patina.
It is 7mm thick at the base and 4cms wide.

Gavin

[josh stout]

Thanks for the info Gavin! This is certainly a strange one. It certainly seems too well made and too solid to be anything other than a weapon, but I have seen laminated heat-treated scissors. The "tonkou" brass work looks vaguely like it could have been made in Western China/Eastern Tibet. It reminds me of Yi swords. When you look closely at the lamination, does it have a "Tibetan" feel to it even if it is not hairpin?

[Miguel]

This is a fascinating thread which until now I have missed
Miguel

[Gavin Nugent]

Originally Posted by josh stout

Thanks for the info Gavin! This is certainly a strange one. It certainly seems too well made and too solid to be anything other than a weapon, but I have seen laminated heat-treated scissors. The "tonkou" brass work looks vaguely like it could have been made in Western China/Eastern Tibet. It reminds me of Yi swords. When you look closely at the lamination, does it have a "Tibetan" feel to it even if it is not hairpin?

I am at a total loss with this one Josh, it could just as well be a "higher" end iron spatula that one had a large ring to the pommel end...one thing is for certain though, it is very well forged and very devastating in the the wrong hands.

Gavin