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Old 26th May 2016, 03:48 AM   #1
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THANKS FOR POSTING THIS EXAMPLE OF THE ARMOR IT SHOWS HOW THE SECTION WITH THE LARGE SECTION TO PROTECT THE BACK OF THE HEAD IS ATTACHED AND THE EXTRA PROTECTION IT GIVES TO THE SIDES AND KIDNEYS.
SEVERAL OF THESE SETS OF ARMOR HAVE VERY FEW BLACK DESIGNS LIKE THE ONE YOU POST WHILE OTHERS HAVE QUITE A LOT. I WONDER IF THEY DENOTE THE RANK OF THE INDIVIDUAL OR THE NUMBER OF TIMES HE HAS FOUGHT OR HIS TEAM (TRIBE, VILLAGE OR ISLAND) ? NOTE THE DESIGNS ON THE TWO WARRIORS IN ARMOR IN THE PICTURE OF THE FIGHT ABOVE. SOME PICTURES FOR COMPARISON USE THE PICTURES IN POSTS ABOVE ALSO. NOTE THAT THE DESIGN APPEARS TO BE DIAMOND SHAPED IN MANY BUT ARE SHAPED LIKE FISH IN ONE EXAMPLE.
#1. SUIT IN AUCKLAND MUSEUM MUCH LIKE YOUR EXAMPLE
#2. LISTED AS FROM THE GILBERT ISLANDS
#3. LISTED AS GILBERT IS.
#4. LISTED AS KIRIBATI WARRIORS, LOOKS LIKE THE SAME GROUP POSED FOR THE FIGHT PICTURE IN THE POSTS ABOVE.
#5. LISTED AS KIRIBATI
#6. LISTED AS GILBERT IS.
#7. 1841 SKETCH DRUMMOND IS;AND WARRIOR KINGSMILL ISLANDS
#8. GILBERT ISLANDS
#9. GILBERT ISLANDS
#10. KINGSMILL ISLANDS ARMOR , GERMAN BOOK
#11. KINGSMILL ISLANDS tHIS IS A DIFFERENT FORM THAT COVERS FRONT AND BACK.
#12. GILBERT ISLANDS ARMOR , FRONT AND BACK FORM.

SORRY ABOUT THE QUALITY OF THE PICTURES MANY WERE TOO SMALL AND DARK TO DO MUCH WITH.
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Old 26th May 2016, 09:47 PM   #2
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MORE ARMOR AND WEAPONS FROM KINGSMILL, GILBERT, MARSHALL, KIRIBATI ISLANDS REGION. DIFFERENT NAMES FOR THE SAME PLACES OVER TIME WITH NO SPECIFICS DO MUDDY THE WATERS.
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Old 1st June 2016, 05:02 PM   #3
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A OLD EXAMPLE OF A INTERESTING SHARK TOOTH POLE SPEAR. THERE ARE 4 ROWS OF TEETH 2 ROWS WITH THE TEETH POINTING FORWARD AND TWO ROWS WITH THE TEETH POINTING BACKWARD. TWO ROWS GO ALL THE WAY TO THE TIP AND TWO GO TWO THIRDS OF THE WAY. IT IS 81.5 CM. LONG BUT APPEARS THAT SOME OF THE POLE MAY HAVE BEEN CUT OFF IN THE PAST.
THE TWO OLD PICTURES OF THE WARRIORS FACING OFF AND OF THEM STANDING WITH WEAPONS IN THE ABOVE POSTS, WAS FROM A 3 BOOK SET IN GERMAN CALLED " DIE SITTEN DER VOLKER" PUBLISHED IN 1920.
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Old 9th June 2016, 07:13 PM   #4
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PICTURE OF A VARIATION OF THE SHARKTOOTH SPEAR/CLUB FOUND IN THE MUSEUM IN AUCKLAND NEW ZEALAND
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Old 24th August 2016, 06:45 PM   #5
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TWO EXCEPTIONALLY FINE LONG SHARK TOOTH SPEARS RECENTLY ENDED AT AUCTION. ONE HAS A TIP MADE OF LARGE STINGRAY SPINES, BOTH APPEAR TO BE GOOD OLD EXAMPLES. THESE TWO EXAMPLES ARE 11 FEET BY 2.5 IN. OR 335 X 6.3 CM. LONG. DESCRIBED AS 19TH. CENTURY MAKE OF WOOD AND TIGER SHARK TEETH WITH A TIP ON ONE WITH STINGRAY SPINES AND A LITTLE REMAINING OF A FIBER WRAP. NOTE THE TEETH POINT ONE WAY TOWARD THE TIP BUT CHANGE ABOUT HALFWAY DOWN TO THE OTHER DIRECTION. THERE IS A WOODEN CROSS GUARD WITHOUT TEETH ON ONE EXAMPLE. IT LOOKS LIKE THEY WERE MOUNTED AND DISPLAYED AS A PAIR IN THE PAST.
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Old 19th October 2016, 04:47 PM   #6
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#1. ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF AN OLD GILBERT ISLAND DAGGER ,19TH. CENTURY, 58 CM. LONG.
#2. GILBERT ISLAND STAMPS FEATURING SHARK TOOTH WEAPONS AND ARMOR.
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Old 19th October 2016, 05:42 PM   #7
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#1. ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF AN OLD GILBERT ISLAND DAGGER ,19TH. CENTURY, 58 CM. LONG.
Exactly this piece I've handled yesterday, a very old piece with great patina.
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