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Old 12th May 2016, 10:39 AM   #1
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Oh i can tell you why they did these mistakes.
First the decoration is ottoman baroque, clearly with European influences, but it's not European. Second for a lot of people all wootz blade is Persian.
It could be...
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Old 12th May 2016, 11:32 AM   #2
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Oh i can tell you why they did these mistakes.
First the decoration is ottoman baroque, clearly with European influences, but it's not European. Second for a lot of people all wootz blade is Persian.
It could be...
But this is the Royal Armouries, they have a lot of people with experience there, they never mention "Ottoman" either. Here is another one,
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Sabre and scabbard (1615-1635) Mameluke-hilted sabre and scabbard Place: Turkey
I think if I described my kilij as a "Mameluk hilted sabre" I might get some laughs.
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Old 12th May 2016, 11:39 AM   #3
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They do have some nice weapons and armor though. Here is another kilij, this one clearly has a Persian blade
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Sword (kilic) (1772) By Ismail son of Asad Allah Isfahani. Place: Turkey
....at least be consistant!!
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Old 12th May 2016, 12:18 PM   #4
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Here is an interesting sword...
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German blade dated 1697; Indian hilt 18th century
....is this an "Indian hilt" or a European hilt with Indian decoration?
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Old 12th May 2016, 12:25 PM   #5
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Looks like a sossun to me
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Sword (khanda) (1771-1799) Place: India, Gujerat
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Old 12th May 2016, 12:42 PM   #6
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Here is a real interesting one.........
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Sword (talwar) (1800-1899) Place: Germany
Do they even have the right sword here, it says this sword has a "knuckle bow" and "black leather" covered scabbard????

https://collections.royalarmouries.o...ect-21372.html
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The blade is single edged and slightly curved, with two narrow fullers beside the flat back in which there are traces of decoration. The ricasso has some burnished zig-zag decoration on a dull ground. The russet iron hilt is of Indo-Muslim type, with a small dish pommel, swelling grip, short quillons, a knuckle bow, and a pierced swivel loop on the pommel button. It is decorated in silver koftgari with scrolling foliage and flowers. The scabbard is of wood covered in black leather with an iron chape.
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Old 12th May 2016, 12:59 PM   #7
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Here is another glaring mistake, this is a "tsukubo" but is it not a "sode garami", that is another type of tool used for catching / holding criminals, there are three such tools which together are called torimono sandōgu (three tools of arresting).
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Catch pole (sode garami) (1800-1899) of the type called tsukubo Place: Japan
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