A blunderbuss with an early lock

Fernando K · 2nd April 2016, 10:28 PM

Hello

Only to add that the screw that closes the jaws ends in a ring, common in Mediterranean locks

Affectionately. Fernando K

Shakethetrees · 3rd April 2016, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Fernando K

Hello

Only to add that the screw that closes the jaws ends in a ring, common in Mediterranean locks

Affectionately. Fernando K

I suspect the screw is a replacement. A very minor consideration on a gun of this age!

A very nice weapon, and one that could easily find a home in my pile.

M ELEY · 3rd April 2016, 04:53 AM

Awesome early blunderbuss, Fernando! It kind of reminded me of a wall gun (as in those mammoth swivel types protecting forts). I know it's not, based on the length, but I'm with Richard that it could easily have been a coach gun.

About the stock- I'm assuming its 'wormy ash', based on the worm holes? Or do other woods get those pesky moth larvae as well. If it is ash, is this a common wood for a gun stock? Not my area, so just thinking aloud and hoping for education on this! Wormy ash was the #1 choice for pike hafts-

Pukka Bundook · 3rd April 2016, 05:42 AM

RE ash,

No clue on Portugal, but ash was used at this time in England and Northern Europe, even for matchlock tillers/stocks. It wasn't the only wood used, as walnut, fruitwood and elm were used and walnut being the most popular. Maple /sycamore used as well.

The ring type vise pin in the cock is more Spanish ,Portuguese/Mediterranean, but very practical and sometimes seen even in Scotland. Could well be a replacement sometime in its very long life.

Has the barrel any proofs?

iskender · 3rd April 2016, 08:48 PM

good evening ,aside the yaw-screw i possess a very similar rifle in its original configuration ,the allmost identical barrel has 2 british proofmarks on the left side of the barrel. the gun is 84 cm long . there is a good chance this very early doglock-carbine is from england. (my guess) iskender Switzerland

iskender · 3rd April 2016, 09:02 PM

gentlemen ; Sorry for calling my carbine a rifle as it has no rifling and that is a inacurat therm for it. .It is Just the fakt that in switzerland most of the men call every "rifle" that looks like a broomstick a " Flinte" even when it is a full auto assault rifle ! gretings iskender

Pukka Bundook · 4th April 2016, 01:01 AM

Iskender,

I understand, and believe the same word "flinte" is used in Germany is it not?

Best wishes,
Richard.

fernando · 24th July 2019, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Shakethetrees

... I suspect the screw is a replacement...

Yes, indeed. I have just checked that with the previous owner, who replaced it himself.

3rd April 2016, 08:48 PM	#5
iskender Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 60	britisch doglock ? good evening ,aside the yaw-screw i possess a very similar rifle in its original configuration ,the allmost identical barrel has 2 british proofmarks on the left side of the barrel. the gun is 84 cm long . there is a good chance this very early doglock-carbine is from england. (my guess) iskender Switzerland

3rd April 2016, 09:02 PM	#6
iskender Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 60	british doglock ? gentlemen ; Sorry for calling my carbine a rifle as it has no rifling and that is a inacurat therm for it. .It is Just the fakt that in switzerland most of the men call every "rifle" that looks like a broomstick a " Flinte" even when it is a full auto assault rifle ! gretings iskender

2nd April 2016, 10:28 PM	#1
Fernando K Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 671	Hello Only to add that the screw that closes the jaws ends in a ring, common in Mediterranean locks Affectionately. Fernando K

3rd April 2016, 04:53 AM	#3
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,158	Awesome early blunderbuss, Fernando! It kind of reminded me of a wall gun (as in those mammoth swivel types protecting forts). I know it's not, based on the length, but I'm with Richard that it could easily have been a coach gun. About the stock- I'm assuming its 'wormy ash', based on the worm holes? Or do other woods get those pesky moth larvae as well. If it is ash, is this a common wood for a gun stock? Not my area, so just thinking aloud and hoping for education on this! Wormy ash was the #1 choice for pike hafts-

3rd April 2016, 05:42 AM	#4
Pukka Bundook Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 803	RE ash, No clue on Portugal, but ash was used at this time in England and Northern Europe, even for matchlock tillers/stocks. It wasn't the only wood used, as walnut, fruitwood and elm were used and walnut being the most popular. Maple /sycamore used as well. The ring type vise pin in the cock is more Spanish ,Portuguese/Mediterranean, but very practical and sometimes seen even in Scotland. Could well be a replacement sometime in its very long life. Has the barrel any proofs?

4th April 2016, 01:01 AM	#7
Pukka Bundook Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 803	Iskender, I understand, and believe the same word "flinte" is used in Germany is it not? Best wishes, Richard.